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Clovis
If we really wanted to prevent more plane crashes we would train and pay pilots better because that is the biggest culprit as far as aviation safety goes in my opinion.

Airplanes are safer than ever yet they are still crashing at the hands of complete idiots flying them or over stressed, over worked, and under paid professionals.
Theresa
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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Or you could post something intelligent? :p


Why bother? It either gets ignored or a bunch of people who love to hate me jump all over it and find any minute detail to bitch/complain/insult/criticize about.

Let the hate train continue on...

((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))

:D

*shoves you off the train*
Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by Clovis
If we really wanted to prevent more plane crashes we would train and pay pilots better because that is the biggest culprit as far as aviation safety goes in my opinion.

Airplanes are safer than ever yet they are still crashing at the hands of complete idiots flying them or over stressed and over worked under paid professionals.


The co-pilot on that commuter crash in Buffalo, she made 16k a year, worked as a barista, and commuted 12 hours to work.

The pilot on that flight was seen sleeping only 45 minutes or so before the flight.
SuspicionVandit
I think instead of using cotton for the seat chairs, they should use Jello. It's just as comfortable. If the plane is about to crash, there will be a controlled 2millisecond 900 volt charge which will be sent to each passengers seat, which will cause the seat's jello to explode (yes, this is a real reaction for jello, read it on wikipedia), filling the cabin, with jello. You will have a better chance of survival in a cabin of soft cushioning jello especially since Jello also puts out jet fuel fire. Jello also does not stain cloth.

But the chairs will have to be covered in rubber so you don't die from the electric shock.

infinity HiGH
quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
If we really wanted to prevent more plane crashes we would train and pay pilots better because that is the biggest culprit as far as aviation safety goes in my opinion.

Airplanes are safer than ever yet they are still crashing at the hands of complete idiots flying them or over stressed, over worked, and under paid professionals.


I thought pilots make good money? I do agree they're over worked and over stressed. They must have some crazy schedules and their bodies (and minds) can't keep up with it. More down time, if anything.
Theresa
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Originally posted by Clovis
If we really wanted to prevent more plane crashes we would train and pay pilots better because that is the biggest culprit as far as aviation safety goes in my opinion.

Airplanes are safer than ever yet they are still crashing at the hands of complete idiots flying them or over stressed, over worked, and under paid professionals.


This I 100% agree with.

From what I understand, the required flying hours to be a pilot has dropped exponentially over the years.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I think there may be too much reliance on technology too. I can't remember which crash it was, but one plane went down because the pilot had it on auto-pilot during a freezing area or something like that.

The airline industry in general is sucking. I don't know what they need to do, but something will have to give.
bas
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Originally posted by Theresa
LOL you're ridiclous. It's not that asinine, nor is it that obvious to people when they don't know the logistics of parachuting or plane crashes for that matter.

No, it's pretty god damn obvious to everyone that's ever stepped foot inside of a plane. I don't know anything about aviation, and very little physics outside of some college classes and I know that you can't jump from a ing plane ~35,000 feet in the air. You're an idiot.
Mr.Mystery
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Originally posted by Clovis
If we really wanted to prevent more plane crashes we would train and pay pilots better because that is the biggest culprit as far as aviation safety goes in my opinion.

Airplanes are safer than ever yet they are still crashing at the hands of complete idiots flying them or over stressed, over worked, and under paid professionals.

I've actually watched airline mechanics pretty closely because of my work and quite honestly I'm surprised there isn't any more crashes. Most of the people don't really seem to give a and if/when it's break time (which is most of the time) they all just leave everything and disappear.
Clovis
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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I thought pilots make good money? I do agree they're over worked and over stressed. They must have some crazy schedules and their bodies (and minds) can't keep up with it. More down time, if anything.


Pilots used to make good money, they make all unless you're flying heavy iron on transcontinental flights or internationally.

Regional pilots are paid ridiculously low for what is basically the exact same job with smaller airplanes that are just as complex.
Clovis
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Originally posted by Theresa
This I 100% agree with.

From what I understand, the required flying hours to be a pilot has dropped exponentially over the years.


Experience levels have dropped across the board particularly because less and less pilots are ex military where they used to rack up thousands of hours prior to moving into airline service, and the advent of cheap, ty pilot schools that cram information into students over short academic programs lasting 2 years or so.

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Perhaps I am wrong, but I think there may be too much reliance on technology too. I can't remember which crash it was, but one plane went down because the pilot had it on auto-pilot during a freezing area or something like that.


That is probably not why the crash happened.

Theresa
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Originally posted by Clovis
Experience levels have dropped across the board particularly because less and less pilots are ex military where they used to rack up thousands of hours prior to moving into airline service, and the advent of cheap, ty pilot schools that cram information into students over short academic programs lasting 2 years or so.



That is probably not why the crash happened.


This is what I was referencing.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/...ffalocrash.html
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Clovis
If we really wanted to prevent more plane crashes we would train and pay pilots better because that is the biggest culprit as far as aviation safety goes in my opinion.

Airplanes are safer than ever yet they are still crashing at the hands of complete idiots flying them or over stressed, over worked, and under paid professionals.


im more inclined to think its related to what lillith alluded to earlier, in that airlines are a business and cost-cutting is part of that business. sub-contracting their maintenance to third parties in developing nations is a big cause for concern imo. there's been quite a few incidents lately in australia regarding equipment failure but whether that's just a media beat up or not is hard to tell.
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