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A Baffling Physics Question That Should Make You Think (pg. 2)
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Lira
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Originally posted by Krypton
So, how did matter and energy get here in the first place?

Why couldn't it just be here all along? Nihil ex nihilo, after all.
yukii
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
Cool, the big crunch was what I meant :) Didn't realise it had a proper name :p




your welcome :)
Krypton
The universe is ever expanding at a faster rate (Red Shift). I think a crunch is out of the question.










and no, this isn't a religion thread..:rolleyes:
SuspicionVandit
Like homer simpson said, think of the universe as a donut. You walk around the donut all day, but you will never reach the end. You can travel in all axis, but you will never have a beginning or an end. But if you want to escape the universe, all you have to do is come with me. Take my hand and fly away with me, Over mountain and sea, Far away from the pain to a place where we're all free. As we fly together, you and me, We will build a new world We'll believe in a love I know that we will be Together and free. Together, forever, Move on to an island across the sea
yukii
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Originally posted by Krypton
I think a crunch is out of the question.


you're going against the works of hawking :mad: how dare you
Krypton
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Originally posted by yukii
you're going against the works of hawking :mad: how dare you


Hubble > Hawking
SuspicionVandit
i don't think hawking proposed the crunch.
yukii
me > hubble

& no, he didn't propose the crunch but he talks a lot about it :o
Krypton
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Originally posted by Lira
Why couldn't it just be here all along? Nihil ex nihilo, after all.


If the universe has a beginning, how could matter and energy have been here all along?
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
probably pro obama


:stongue:

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Originally posted by Krypton
The universe is ever expanding at a faster rate (Red Shift). I think a crunch is out of the question.


What if there was a black hole (or something similar) that was so large and so dense that it slowed the expansion, and eventually reversed it? Is something like that possible?

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Originally posted by Krypton
If the universe has a beginning, how could matter and energy have been here all along?


That's why the 'cyclical' theory makes more sense (to me anyway :p)

Sunsnail
1) The universe doesn't have to have a beginning
2) yukii's "outside the universe" . theres nothing "outside the universe". whatever it "outside" is part of it.
3) from a distance the gravity from a black hole behaves the same as a star of equal mass
yukii
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Originally posted by Sunsnail
1) The universe doesn't have to have a beginning


okay, so if there was no beginning then youre saying there was no starting point?

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2) yukii's "outside the universe" . theres nothing "outside the universe". whatever it "outside" is part of it.


it was a ing hypothetical question, calm the down pierre. :o

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3) from a distance the gravity from a black hole behaves the same as a star of equal mass


yes
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