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Meat187
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I liked Portrait and found it quite readable. I don't really see what's hard to understand about it.

Ulysses I can see being difficult. I've only read excerpts of it (which I liked) for a course, but I picked up the book recently and will start on it soon.


I didn't find the plot hard to understand, rather that he doesn't really try to convey his points about religion and art to the reader. The main character and his problems are not something I can easily identify with and Joyce just doesn't manage to make this book accessible to me.

Interesting to see that quite a few people agree about the Beatles. I was expecting a huge storm about how ignorant and clueless I am.

:wtf: at naming Beethoven.

Oh, and I want to add

  • Andy Warhol: I know that is his fame isn't solely based on his artistic merit, but rather on the techniques he introduced and how he changed art as a whole. But I'm quite baffled about what could possibly be great about his stuff. I wouldn't hang any of this crap in my room, and I think anyone who doesn't know will be like "What kind of silly garbage is that?!" That is, until you tell them it's by Andy Warhol, when they'll suddenly change to "Oh, that's cool."
couch-potato
Led Zeppelin.
Meat187
quote:
Originally posted by couch-potato
Led Chaplin.


Fixed.
stren
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
So many people have recommended this to me, but I've never gotten around to it.

Why do you think it sucks?


its annoying , cause it is written from the point of view of a 19 (?) year old.
SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Even thoughtcrime seems to flirt with the idea that language is thought (and vice versa).


Well, that is one of the original founding notions of semiotics.

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I didn't find the plot hard to understand, rather that he doesn't really try to convey his points about religion and art to the reader. The main character and his problems are not something I can easily identify with and Joyce just doesn't manage to make this book accessible to me.


Joyce was never trying to make it accessible, quite the opposite.
Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
JM Coatzee. He won a Nobel prize for literature, but his books are good only for academics to write papers about.


I'm surprised to see him on your list - I've only read "Disgrace" but thought it was quite good, actually.
bananas
Catcher in the Rye is probably my favorite book:]]
MrJiveBoJingles
It seems like people either love or hate Catcher in the Rye. I think I'll pick it up and find out which camp I fall into.
winston
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187


  • Andy Warhol: I know that is his fame isn't solely based on his artistic merit, but rather on the techniques he introduced and how he changed art as a whole. But I'm quite baffled about what could possibly be great about his stuff. I wouldn't hang any of this crap in my room, and I think anyone who doesn't know will be like "What kind of silly garbage is that?!" That is, until you tell them it's by Andy Warhol, when they'll suddenly change to "Oh, that's cool."


this. I agree.
MrJiveBoJingles
Apparently Catcher in the Rye and its hero, Holden Caulfield, are becoming less popular as kids identify less with outcasts and dropouts and more with people who "work within the system." Students today think the character is whiny and immature, and should just "shut up and take his Prozac":

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/w...schuessler.html

bananas
today's youth is stupid
EgosXII
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Apparently Catcher in the Rye and its hero, Holden Caulfield, are becoming less popular as kids identify less with outcasts and dropouts and more with people who "work within the system." Students today think the character is whiny and immature, and should just "shut up and take his Prozac":

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/w...schuessler.html


globalisation is ing up any concept of originality i guess...
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