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It's time to debate: Where do you stand with ghost engineers/writing (pg. 2)
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| Beatflux |
| It doesn't matter, most of the mainstream stuff is garbage anyway. |
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| RichieV |
| i thought ghost writing for EDM was something that happened when the whole super star dj phenomenon started and the djs needed more to market themselves with than their super stylish haircuts. I am skeptical concerning whether it is still happening to this extent. Maybe I'm wrong. |
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| music2dance2 |
Was having this discussing with a friend at the weekend after a night out. Its been discussed many times. But my thoughts have always been #1.
If you release some music as a producer you should be able to complete the track from start to finish, mixed well and if needs be let the label engineer take care of mastering etc unless you can do that also, if you can engineer.
At the end of the day you are in more control of what you do if you can do it. If you have to rely on someone then you will always be limited in many ways. I know of people who use engineers, I've been told to try it but personally I'd rather spend the time doing it myself so I am in control of what I want to make, when I want to make it and dont have to book days of to travel to someones house or spend weekends in someones studio, when it can all be done from my own house. Even if you get an idea @ 4am you can go do something about it. Even if I really wanted to have my own tracks released I would still wait until I was good enough to do it by myself than just go and use someone else.
For making a living out of it & DJ-ing if you got asked for some tracks or remixes its much easier to do the work yourself knowing its how you want it to sound than telling someone else to do it. I think even with a gruelling DJ schedule if you want to make great music you will do it and find time, after all its about your creativity not someone else's. Its you're sweat, blood and tears, its not impossible many artists do it already with all the touring involved etc.
I get annoyed by it all to be honest. |
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| Zild |
| I'm number 1 for EDM but when I'm producing for anything else its mostly direction coming up with funds and getting the best performance out of my artists. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| yeah i got 3 ghost writers under my belt and i'm not ashame to admit it, real producing comes from other peoples work. Using other people's material is the real way of making music, how you are you suppose to be amazing when your different. Imo, the contract should have the ghost writer agree with writing and engineering the song with no credit and be silent at all costs. Thats the way we do it over here :whip: |
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| Cryogen |
One way to look at it is, if so many of the top producers are actually using ghost writers, imagine how much good music we'd be losing out on if ghost writing wasn't an option.
As a DJ or someone who buys music I don't care how the tracks get made, why would I. Sure, it's lame when someone gets someone else to write them a track then takes credit for it but if that track tears the dance floor up then so be it.
In an ideal world everyone would produce their own music. In reality that's never going to happen. |
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| Aesthetic |
If it weren't for ghost writers we wouldn't have Sasha - Xpander
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| music2dance2 |
| Agreed, and it will only continue. I think from a producer point of view its more annoying. But saying that before I start producing when I was a clubber years ago and then realised some of my fav tracks weren;t written sand produced by the dj's I idolised I cant say i wasnt a bit gutted. |
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| Zild |
| I have to throw parties under someone else's name or else nobody would show up. Same with ghost producers/writers. It is a mutually beneficial relationship. |
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| mfitterer1 |
| I think it serves as a pretty good motivational aspect to see so many clowns in the industry. People take so many ing short cuts and eventually it will catch up with every single one of them. I will make sure of it. |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cryogen
One way to look at it is, if so many of the top producers are actually using ghost writers, imagine how much good music we'd be losing out on if ghost writing wasn't an option.
As a DJ or someone who buys music I don't care how the tracks get made, why would I. Sure, it's lame when someone gets someone else to write them a track then takes credit for it but if that track tears the dance floor up then so be it.
In an ideal world everyone would produce their own music. In reality that's never going to happen. |
this is retarded imo.
if the people hadn't paid them for their track then the creator of the track would have got the credit they deserved, releasing it under their own name!
instead some dj who doesn't have any respect for music production says things like 'i don't care how tracks get made'...
of course it matters where it comes from, this scene is about respect and is heavily political, i think people deserve credit for what they've made. see geert huinink for example: he'd be huge if all his tiesto stuff was under his own name imo...
i think the only time it's ok is if it's someone like benno de goeji who ghost-writes for a number of people since he's already big enough as rank 1 he can spare some respekt :p |
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