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Thoughts on chaining 2 Oberheim MX 1000's together
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| StephenWiley |
If this thread title got your attention, you already know the instrument we're talking about. If not, here it is real quick.
http://www.vintagesynth.com/oberheim/mat1000.php
As far as sounds go, I really like what I hear. I havn't a clue with regards to durability (maybe you can chime in?) or if what I'm about to propose would be a good idea, but it seems like one.
I'm thinking about buying two of these units. They're 6 voice polyphony analog units, and with two that gives me 12 voices and I can create a stereo image. I've got a feeling it would be an insanely nice sound and it will cost between 600-700 to do it. They've got 800 ROM sounds with 200 extra banks for patching, but you have to use external software or buy an 6/6R (I will use external software) to program your own patches. My only concern here is durability. (I can always sell them back if I don't like the sound) - I don't want a piece of gear that loses voices easily or is known for malfunctioning a lot.
What do you guys think? |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by StephenWiley
They've got 800 ROM sounds with 200 extra banks for patching, but you have to use external software or buy an 6/6R (I will use external software) to program your own patches. |
I could never live with a synth that didn't have patch programming built into it. That's just me, though. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| How about some sounds from that synth? :) |
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| DjStephenWiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I could never live with a synth that didn't have patch programming built into it. That's just me, though. |
I can. The software to program it is $10 - I'd rather use something new like that than the archaic front panels of a racked vintage synth. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Archaic front panels ftw. :p |
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| orTofønChiLd |
wow those are some really nice sounds, i like :) |
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| Rusty O'Hara |
Bear in mind the sysex implementation in the Matrix 1000...
Why not buy one and see how you go? |
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| DjStephenWiley |
| I'd like to see if any TA's here have any experience with this particular machine before I jump in head first. I've never owned an Oberheim or a synth made from the 80's or early 90's. I'd like to hear some comments from people here who have or have used the mx 1000. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
These are mono synths. I want to take two of them and plug one into a R and one into a L and use stereo imaging to create a really nice sound, plus I would have 12 voices. Analog, 12 voices, for $600-700 plus 800 presets and new software to operate the machine... |
o_O
a stereo synth without any stereo effects is effectively mono (same thing coming out both outputs). i don't see what you are gaining from having two. you will not have 12 voices; you will have 6 voices per mono channel, unless you are happy to have some notes playing on the left channel and not the right lol. the only reason the matrix 6r has stereo out is because it is multitimbral. you could achieve this "stereo" you are talking about by just doubling up the input channel in your daw...
another thing to be aware of is that these oberheim synths are a bit slow/buggy with midi parameter changes etc.
| quote: | Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
you ******s better not steal my idea |
i don't think you need to worry about that lol... :crazy: |
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| DjStephenWiley |
Regarding chaining these together....apparently you can chain up to six together. Here are some comments from vintagesynth.com
From one poster...
"One of the coolest things about this synth (and the Matrix 6 and 6R) is that they can easily be linked together...not just synced, but linked. Link two together and you have a 12 voice synth. Link three and you have 18 voices, etc. You can link up to 6 units together, making an unbelievable analog monster."
"I got two M1000s, but not to make a 12 voice synth out of it. The M1000 is mono and for me this is a big disadvantage. Now I lead midi through the first unit to the second, treat them as one stereo synth (pan extreme left and right, slightly detuned) and got a real fat cat! By the way: the Access hardware controller works pretty well. No access to every parameter but to the most important."
"I seem to remember the 1000 as well as the 6 and 6R had a unique "daisy chain" feature where you could share voices together. So, two 1000s linked to an M6 would give you a MONSTER 18 voice synth. I'm not 100% sure of this, can anyone confirm/elaborate?"
Description of the MX 1000 from vintagesynth.com
"The analog Matrix 1000 is essentially 1,000 Matrix 6 patches in a single-space compact rackmount MIDI module. It has the same synth architecture as the Matrix 6. Each of its 6 voices have two DCO's (digitally controlled analog oscillator), a low pass filter, 2 VCA's, 3 envelope gens, 2 LFO's, and 2 ramp gens. The sounds are plentiful and good enough, however if you want to edit your own, you'll need a Matrix 6/6R or some universal editor (such as MOTU's Unisyn) or Access' Matrix Programmer to externally edit parameters. You can also load sounds from the Matrix 6 via SysEx or software.
The Matrix 1000 provides an excellent source of pads, textures and ambient sounds. It has 195 "keyboard" sounds, 118 "strings", 130 "woodwinds & perc", 239 "synthesizer", 119 "bass", 74 "lead" and 125 "effects". For the price, there is no better way to find genuine analog Oberheim Matrix sounds in a compact and very in-expensive rack module that is loaded with more sounds than you'll ever need! The older versions of the Matrix 1000 have a black front-panel. The newer models in the '90's have a cream face-plate (pictured above). It has been used by Apollo 440, Juno Reactor, Moby, Cirrus, Fatboy Slim, Laurent Garnier, ATB, Depeche Mode, Future Sound of London, Pet Shop Boys, and Faithless." |
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| alanzo |
| I was going to get a Matrix 1000... it really didn't impress me all, though. But it could just be that the demos suck. Just get a Tetra. It'll sound just as good, I'm sure. |
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