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Sidechain Pad Compression
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| Daemonio |
Hello,
I've been around this forum for quite awhile, allthough i have never posted. I'd like to start that your posts helped me a lot with what i am doing today. Now the reason about why i am writing is : allthough i like to discover things by myself, there are some things which i could not do, no matter how inventive i tried to be. One of the things that bothered me is this one : Side chain COmpression on Pads.
I am using FL Studio. I do the SD with the peak controller.
The scenario is this one : I want to do SD compression to the main pad to sound off-beat. It's easy: i side chain it with the kick, i tune the volume and it's oke. BUT ... when i want to do a solo only with pad and NO KICK, the pad does not sound off beat anymore and it's natural to happend because there is nothing to side chain it to.
And now my question is, if anyone can help me : How can i make the pad to sound off beat (sd compression feeling) without anything else to be heard on the backround ?
PS : i've tried double side chain with a fake dummy sound with low freq. on the kick pattern and it didn't worked. |
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| cArAcH0 |
Hi,
i don't know if this works in fl studio, but in ableton live i create a separate sc track und mute it. Then it won't be heard in the mix, but can be used as sc input. |
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| Daemonio |
| Thx for the reply. I've tried that and it does not work in FL. The moment you mute a channel that you use for SC Input, the Sc wonnt work anymore. |
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| sylenth |
never used fruity loops, but in cubase there's the channel output with my sidechain trigger it's the ch 'main out put' & there's the sends. so when i want to use it to side chain something & not hear it eg: ur pad channel.
i disable the channel output 'no bus' & then i use one of the 'sends' to the channel with the sidechain compressor on it.
you'll haved to see what options you have there. i'm sure other fruity users can help you if you don't come right.
good luck. |
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| Morvan |
You are probably overlooking something, but worst case scenario you can insert a freeware muter/volume control AFTER the effect you are using, e.g. GFader and set that to -infinite dB.
http://www.gvst.co.uk/gfader.htm |
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| owien |
im a fruity user and i find by creating the pad i want then choping in piano roll first acts like a trigger once i have the basic idea i start adding some tools to do what i want.
try edit events built into fruitys and automation is the key |
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| Kysora |
Mute it through the peak controller |
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| Daemonio |
| Thx Kysora ! That was it. Wow ,.. i never thought of muteing the peak controller. Thx a lot guys. :) |
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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Daemonio
Thx for the reply. I've tried that and it does not work in FL. The moment you mute a channel that you use for SC Input, the Sc wonnt work anymore. |
Have you tried not muting it but turning it all the way down? |
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| PutBoy |
Clone your kick sample, send it to another mixer channel, add your Peak Controller there, set it right and then use the mute button. You have to know where it is because it's on as a standard, and you have to turn it off to get it to work the way you're using it.
Another method is to take a very short hihat sample, or create your own short sound in a synth, whichever you prefer, the latter method gives you a little bit more control if your a **** about that sort of thing.
Create a 4/4 step pattern (like how you would program your kick, except use the piano roll and create as short notes as you can), and assign that to a mixer channel where you put your Peak Controller. |
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| lenieNt Force |
| quote: | Originally posted by Daemonio
Thx for the reply. I've tried that and it does not work in FL. The moment you mute a channel that you use for SC Input, the Sc wonnt work anymore. |
You can do it the exact same way you can do it in Ableton like cArAcH0 said. Set the fpc on a seperate kick channel and bring the fader down. the FX chains in the mixer are all pre-fader, bringing the fader down does not affect the sidechaining.
You can either mute the channel or bring the fader down, doesn't matter. |
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