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Fog/ Haze and laser machines
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| griggly |
Hey guys, I'm trying to build up my dj set up to go for the most entertainment. There are a few things I'm looking at but don't want to spend the money on the wring things. Right now programmable lasers, fog/ haze machines, and DMX controllers are on my list. If anyone has any suggestions on how to go about this let me know.
Also what really is the difference in fog machines and haze?
Thanks,
Grigly |
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| Stu Cox |
Fog machines put out big bursts of smoke when you press the button, makes a nice effect for a while but you need to do it every so often to keep enough hanging in the air to make the lights visible.
Haze machines just put out a light, fine mist and are generally just left on for a whole night (or for most of it at least) - so that there's always a haze sitting in the air but it's not as much of an "event" (although I think few people over the age of 14 still get excited about smoke machines going off) |
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| griggly |
| Thanks man. So,just one more thing, would you recommend a haze machine over fog? I'm going to be using it for indoor and out. |
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| Stu Cox |
Haze machines don't really work outdoors and you need a ing big smoke machine for it to have any real effect outdoors as it dissipates so quickly (decent ones designed for outdoor use can be fairly pricey)
Indoors I prefer haze machines, so I'd either say get a haze machine and forget using it outdoors or get a smoke machine to use for both and hope it's powerful enough for outdoors! Or get one of each ;) |
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| Brandt Slater |
Depending on what look you're wanting to achieve, If it's to highlight beams of light. A Hazer will do this much better than a fogger because it continuously runs. Where a fogger needs a cooldown cycle and depending on the room environment, what type of fog fluid you use, fog doesn't always stick well. Also fog machines can be messy and they tend to be loud while operating where hazers are not.
But first, I would check with the facilities around you and see if you can even use a Fog/haze machine indoors. Most banquet/convention centers prohibit their use and in some cases, fire codes prohibit their use indoors of public places all together.
IMO, I wouldn't waste a penny on lasers. Most are cheap and just suck. Unless of course you planning on buying pro grade lasers. I would recommend looking into moving lights/scanners. Much better appeal and they can operate and be seen without fog or haze. Also I would recommend looking into the LED lighting effects. |
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| clay |
| quote: | Originally posted by jessican1
a haze machine over fog.I'm going to be using it for indoor and out.
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| Ryan0751 |
Laser's in the higher "variance free" class, such as the Chavuet Fat-Beam units and such can look great (running around $700-1000), but do require haze (or fog). If you go with something more powerfull, you can get away with less haze and fog, but now you require an FDA variance (in the US), and really need to be super careful so that you don't injure people. It becomes a big undertaking, and to really use these lasers you need ILDA software as well (about $500).
Anything cheaper, I'd say don't bother. You just wind up with those laser pattern projections, I personally think it's cheap looking.
One other thing to mention... hazers typically run constantly, as stated... they use a compressor, and do make some constant noise. Fog machines make a lot of noise when they are going off, but then are quiet.
Fog machines also tend to use water based fog juice, which is essentially distilled water and glycol. It can leave a film on surface, but is easily cleaned off. Fog WILL set off smoke detectors, if too much is used.
Hazers tend to use oil-based liquid. I don't have experience with this, or leaving a film on things, etc. |
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