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discouraging EDM dj's from buying studio monitors (pg. 2)
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tamtui
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get a girlfriend that is a musician and share the costs and gear, thats what i did


that is brilliant!

I'm going to call DJ Baby Anne right now.
Tony Morello
or you could just play out every weekend like i do, no need to even worry about gear, just show up with your music and go

i don't even have monitors, i just mix in the headphones if/when i use my setup at home
tamtui
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or you could just play out every weekend like i do, no need to even worry about gear, just show up with your music and go i don't even have monitors, i just mix in the headphones if/when i use my setup at home


Yeah I was already considering moving to Canada or some place where there is more EDM parties.

But for now my friends and I have to throw our own.
Nemesis44
Studio Monitors have nothing to do with DJing.

They are designed to give a flat response in order for music producers to be able to create good mixdowns, masters etc. You wouldn't want to use them for everyday listening, would be too harsh on the ears.

Normal speakers are fine for DJing.

Cheers
Nem
Domesticated
quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
You wouldn't want to use them for everyday listening, would be too harsh on the ears.


Please explain this statement.
Tarpex
quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
They are designed to give a flat response in order for music producers to be able to create good mixdowns, masters etc. You wouldn't want to use them for everyday listening, would be too harsh on the ears.


In all honesty, good music sounds good on monitors :)
Only monitors I couldn't stand listening to for enjoyable purposes are Dynaudios, other than that, listening good music on good monitors beats any home speaker, and since they're more accurate than most of the speakers, it's even easier to mix on than on some muddy home .
Nemesis44
Folks, I am not saying good music wont sound good on studio monitors, of course it will. But the fatigue on the ears is different.

High end frequencies are often much better represented on studio monitors and over time will cause your ears to get tired much quicker meaning that your ability to EQ will suffer and even lead to over compensation on the high stuff.

When you are producing you need to take breaks on a regular basis just to reset the balance.

Agreed, of course studio monitors are going to be more accurate but regular speakers are less of an effort on the ears.

Nem
Tony Morello
regular speakers color the sound to make it more enjoyable and less fatiguing on the ears

the accuracy across the full spectrum including the high end is what nem was talking about when saying they'll sound too harsh to a lot of people
DJ RANN
we're all so different. For instance I hate (with a fair degree of passion) Mackie SRM450's as they sound so harsh boxey and unrealistic but I like the HR824s for listening to.

My point is this is a specific choice. There aren't really studio monitors that I would use for a PA and I can't think of PA speakers I'd seriously use for studio monitoring, but the main point with this thread is that studio monitors serve a completely different purpose to PA speakers so I don't know why you'd try?

The exception that proves the rule?

Behringer B2031A - go damn loud and make a decent entry level studio monitor. Not quite a PA speaker but a pair goes loud enough for a decent party and I wouldn't sweat blowing them as they're cheap (300 per pair used) and take quite a kicking before they give.

Tamtui, I'd get them if I were you. You won't find another set of speakers that have this unique position that suits you.
tamtui
Thanks for the advice DJ Rann. I guess if the studio monitor speakers aren't super expensive then it's less paranoia to scratch them or blast them for a party.

I have heard complaints about the SRM-450 being too bright.

But it's funny sometimes the mixer might be the culprit. Some mixers I have found push out a beefier sound. Sometimes a processor like an Aural Exciter might smooth out the highs.

If you get a chance check out the Qsc K series...they really sound amazing.

Zild
I agree SRM 450s sound like especially the high end. The HR824s do sound similar but they don't kill my ears as much.
lasciv
i'm with you there brother, PA sound is the best...as far as block party...hell yeah!!! we always got something underground going on up here in the high desert( Mojave, Keene, La Paz, Barstow to Phelan areas)...just to keep the vibes alive in these hard times...watch out for the rangers though. peace:gsmile:
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