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What is the best way to develope ears?
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| pizzaguy |
| So..? It is just listen the music? I mean i want to develope my ears that i can clearly hear little hz/khz changes. Is it possible? Is there somekinda "online schools" or something? Thans again girlz! <3 |
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| DigiNut |
Your ears already hear "little hz/khz changes". That's pretty much exactly what your auditory system does, it detects frequency and volume.
If you mean hearing very minor changes to the pitch, i.e. a few cents in tuning terms, then try playing an instrument in a band or orchestra for oh, about 5-10 years years, then you'll have a good ear for tuning.
If you're talking about EQ skills, and being able to make the right boosts or cuts in the appropriate frequency bands, then the answer is to practice, and occasionally (but not constantly) look at commercial tracks in a spectrum analyzer for comparison.
The way your question's worded, though, it's really hard to tell which of these things (if any) that you mean. You might want to be more specific because there's no such thing as a course or method for simply "developing your ears". |
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| EgosXII |
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| Subtle |
There is only one way, make music and more music.
It hardly matters how much music you listen to, because you will always be biased towards your own tracks. |
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| derail |
Some options:
For engineering ear training:
Critical Listening Skills for Audio Professionals Book/CD (Hardcover)
For music ear training:
Hearing and Writing Music: Professional Training for Today's Musician (2nd Edition)
I don't have much experience with either of them. I'm pretty sure I have the first one in my collection, I bought it at the same time we were doing ear training during my course. During the course we were using a CD program called "Golden Ears", which had a bunch of exercises to help fine-tune your ears to specific frequency ranges, both with various styles of music as well as white noise.
As other people have said though, spending a heap of time in the studio, working on sounds, trying to get your stuff sounding fantastic, will also hone your skills immensely, and will probably be the main way you develop your ears rather than one of the resources above. |
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| Waza |
| Derail how do you rate these Books especially the first since you've read it, it's caught my eye. |
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| derail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Waza
Derail how do you rate these Books especially the first since you've read it, it's caught my eye. |
I'll dig it out today and have a bit of a read/ listen, refresh my memory... |
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| cryophonik |
Assuming the OP is referring to training his ears to hear the notes, there are plenty of ways to learn to do that and courses and books to help you. They involve a lot of listening and practice, and usually some knowledge of theory, particularly scales/modes and intervals. A few tips:
- learn to hear the difference between songs that are done in a major key vs. a minor key
- learn and become comfortable with the primary chords (i.e., the triads built on each note) of both minor and major keys
- learn to hear the difference between major, minor, and to a lesser extent (for EDM at least), diminished, and augmented chords; also learn to hear what an added 7th or 9th or a suspended 4th sounds like in a chord, since they are fairly common in a lot of EDM
- listen closely to the bass notes, because they usually (but not always) outline the root of the chords; if you combine that with a basic knowledge of the pimary chords in any major or minor key, then you're well on your way to figuring out the chord progression of any given track.
- learn to hear and recognize intervals (i.e., the difference from one note to the next) in both directions (i.e., ascending and descending) - of course this can be much harder than it sounds, so start with common intervals such as major seconds, perfect fifths and fourths, etc.
- practice, practice, practice by trying to figure out melodies, bass lines, and chord progressions to existing tracks that you are familiar with. Maybe download the MIDI files to help you, or to confirm what you've figured out (although be aware that there are many incorrect MIDI files floating around out there) |
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| derail |
Okay, I had a bit of a read through "Critical Listening Skills for Audio Professionals", listening to the mp3 CD at the same time.
It is a good general guide to listening - what a frequency imbalance sounds like at (for example) 250 Hz, 500 Hz, 1 kHz, what effect lowpass and highpass filters have on different sounds, hearing what a 2dB cut sounds like at a couple of frequencies. It covers things like the Haas effect and Fletcher Munson curves.
Some parts aren't as applicable, if you're working fully in the box, on non-vocal music. Issues like wow and flutter won't come up, for example (unless you're using samples which contain these).
It really depends what stage of development you're at. This would be really handy in the first year or two (and it helps to explain why some beginners can't accurately judge that their bass levels are too loud - our ears are less sensitive at low frequencies, small level changes are less noticeable).
But once you've spent a couple of years already paying close attention to your music and how to improve it, this book would be of limited use. As I said above, nothing will replace a few years in the studio, in terms of being able to hear whether your pad is a little heavy around 350 Hz and needs to be pushed down a bit there. |
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| Kismet7 |
| To develop ears, I listen to Carnatic Music of any time, and Indian Film music of the 1940s-1980s. |
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| aquila |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
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:stongue: :stongue: :stongue:
The smartass in me wanted to post that too! |
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