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The student loans company fked up (pg. 5)
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| SYSTEM-J |
You aren't paying £3k a term, you wit. You're paying £3k a year, meaning your course costs you £9,000 in total.
And yes, the student loans company has ed up a lot recently, because they aren't equipped to deal with the stupid numbers of new students. Too many people are going to university in this country, for no good reason. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You aren't paying £3k a term, you wit. You're paying £3k a year, meaning your course costs you £9,000 in total.
And yes, the student loans company has ed up a lot recently, because they aren't equipped to deal with the stupid numbers of new students. Too many people are going to university in this country, for no good reason. |
It’s the same here.
All of a sudden you need a university degree to cut hair, manage a call centre or run a catering event. It’s ing ridiculous. When will people realise that in professions which are based on skill rather than knowledge, the best place to learn is on the job? |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
When will people realise that in professions which are based on skill rather than knowledge, the best place to learn is on the job? |
you sir, speak the truth.
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
you sir, speak the truth.
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Without any exaggeration whatsoever, I learnt more in my first week of my current job than I did in a semester at university covering basically the same material. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Without any exaggeration whatsoever, I learnt more in my first week of my current job than I did in a semester at university covering basically the same material. |
yeah, but uni hours and rules of attendance are way better! |
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| Sonic_c |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You aren't paying £3k a term, you wit. You're paying £3k a year, meaning your course costs you £9,000 in total.
And yes, the student loans company has ed up a lot recently, because they aren't equipped to deal with the stupid numbers of new students. Too many people are going to university in this country, for no good reason. |
Man this forum is full of haters, have a bad day dont post in the cOr :conf: . Who the hell is this guy to decide who is going to uni and for what reasons? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
Man this forum is full of haters, have a bad day dont post in the cOr :conf: . Who the hell is this guy to decide who is going to uni and for what reasons? |
I'm someone who's been to university, graduated from university, seen the people who are attending university and why they're there, and unlike you, actually knows how the system works. That £3k a year is tuition fees to the university. You're trying to borrow that money from the student loans company, so saying "I can't believe we pay £3k to be treated like this!" is diametrically wrong, because you're being given £3k a year to be treated like that.
And with all that said, I'm not deciding who's going to university and for what reasons. The government is. They've stated they want 50% of all young people going through university by 2010, which is an admirable socialist premise on paper, but a ed up exercise in dumbing-down and wasting money in practise.
The simple truth is that there aren't 50% of young people who are smart enough or focused enough to go to university, and as Domesticated pointed out, most of them don't need to be there. So school tests are watered down, leading to record A Level results year on year to make the government's numbers look good and allow idiots into an instution they have no place in. Most of them saunter through university on unnecessary courses they don't care about, racking up debt going to nightclubs and turning every student town into a profitable extension of Backwater Nowhere. Many of them don't have any idea of what they want to do after they graduate, and many don't even know which course they should be taking, but they all go anyway because they are expected to. They come out of the other side with £15k of debt they won't pay off for a decade because they'll never find a high-paying job with the 2.2 class degree they've shat out in the last six months of the whole scenario, and Real Life and its pressing obligations has been successfully dodged for three years.
I didn't decide any of this. But you're an even bigger wit than you first appear if you can't see it happening. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| ^ It's the same in the US as well. So pointless. Yeah, I suppose there are the odd few slackers who will finally be inspired to start caring about academics at some point in college and make it worthwhile, but for a much bigger number of people it is just a way of continuing to be babysat as they were in public school. |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
lol find where I said free. Also, I am very well aware of the fact that Finland has one of the highest tax rates, but if I remember correctly, don't they have one of, if not the, highest quality of life? |
You're thinking of Norway:toothless |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_alfi
You're thinking of Norway:toothless |
I was close! :p |
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| Sonic_c |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm someone who's been to university, graduated from university, seen the people who are attending university and why they're there, and unlike you, actually knows how the system works. That £3k a year is tuition fees to the university. You're trying to borrow that money from the student loans company, so saying "I can't believe we pay £3k to be treated like this!" is diametrically wrong, because you're being given £3k a year to be treated like that.
And with all that said, I'm not deciding who's going to university and for what reasons. The government is. They've stated they want 50% of all young people going through university by 2010, which is an admirable socialist premise on paper, but a ed up exercise in dumbing-down and wasting money in practise.
The simple truth is that there aren't 50% of young people who are smart enough or focused enough to go to university, and as Domesticated pointed out, most of them don't need to be there. So school tests are watered down, leading to record A Level results year on year to make the government's numbers look good and allow idiots into an instution they have no place in. Most of them saunter through university on unnecessary courses they don't care about, racking up debt going to nightclubs and turning every student town into a profitable extension of Backwater Nowhere. Many of them don't have any idea of what they want to do after they graduate, and many don't even know which course they should be taking, but they all go anyway because they are expected to. They come out of the other side with £15k of debt they won't pay off for a decade because they'll never find a high-paying job with the 2.2 class degree they've shat out in the last six months of the whole scenario, and Real Life and its pressing obligations has been successfully dodged for three years.
I didn't decide any of this. But you're an even bigger wit than you first appear if you can't see it happening. |
Your an angry guy calling me wit, FYI I am studying music because I want to improve in my hobby thanks. Oh and I am not getting a 2:2 who the hell is dumb enough to get one of those? if you even half apply yourself you get a 2:1 im getting a first going on my last years marks.
Plus I earned more than the threshold for paying the student loans before choosing to go to university so why wouldnt I after. Oh and no one is giving me anything I am borrowing money which I will have to repay.
If your talking about the generic college leaver that is told by going to uni they will get a good job, but in fact just uses the time to get drunk and ends up with a low end degree in a subject they are not going to use (geology for example) then those people annoy me too. They end up working for guys like me as recruitment consultants.
So it appears we do share the same sentiment, its just a shame the only way you feel you can get by on TA is to insult people or to just be rude. One of the things I have learned from uni is that everyone has a point of view and not just to start calling people names like you did no need man.
Do you seriously think that the fact the student loans company have messed up 150,000 students loans is acceptable? and that i should be greateful that someone is giving me money even though i got to pay it back? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Did I, at any point, say that any of that applied to you?
I called you a wit because you're complaining about incompetence and yet you don't know how much you're paying and who you should be complaining to and what you're complaining about. Then I explained why the student loans company is failing. Two very different points, neatly placed in seperate paragraphs so you wouldn't confuse them.
I'm angry about the university system, because it affects me. I'm not angry about you being a wit. You should be the one getting angry about that. |
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