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Speed increments w/ cdj's (pg. 2)
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| DJ_Rafnel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Adam420
I think you'd definitely have to agree that it has to do with track selection as well...no? |
Sometimes yes i agree. Other times no. It really depends, i mean sometimes, if a DJ plays songs constantly at 140bpm and each song is in its NATIVE BPM of 140, then he really doesnt have to do any work as far as beatmatching.
Its in between songs where i dont have to match them, that i find some new tunes to play, or other things, etc etc. I love those moments. More time to focus on having a great time. |
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| IpLaYWiTLiGhTs |
| quote: | Originally posted by recoil
yea, keeping one hand on the wheel & both ears on the beat mismatch is more involving, but after scrutenising several 'pro' djs in action i noticed how when they mix a track in they hardly revert to the wheel, so the beats are spot on when both tracks are in.
i think that is something for me to strive for, being a punk-arse noob & all... |
I actually see more DJs always keeping one hand on the pitch and constantly riding it. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel
Yeah, alot of tracks on vinyl will drift over time that were ripped to digital.
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Even digital ones do. Load up Ableton and check the majority of your tracks. Many of them will be 127.01, 136.05, 132.03, 133.96 etc etc. |
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| CDJA |
| The method I use in the percentages is the beat method. 4/4 beat. A beat on the percentages is .80. A perfect beat is .40. For example lets say you have two songs. Song "A" is 135 and song "B" is 138 in its natural state. Bring song "B" down to 135 from 138 then subtract .40 from where the song originally hit 135. I've noticed that my beats don't sound mashed up or messy as long as it sounds good in my booth monitors and headphones. |
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| DJ_Rafnel |
| quote: | Originally posted by CDJA
The method I use in the percentages is the beat method. 4/4 beat. A beat on the percentages is .80. A perfect beat is .40. For example lets say you have two songs. Song "A" is 135 and song "B" is 138 in its natural state. Bring song "B" down to 135 from 138 then subtract .40 from where the song originally hit 135. I've noticed that my beats don't sound mashed up or messy as long as it sounds good in my booth monitors and headphones. |
Thats a good idea but its always a good idea to practice beatmatching without the display. Often times i cover the display with a flyer...like Above and Beyonds Halloween NYC show(for inspirational purposes hah!)
Think about it, Turntables do not have a display...it will only make you better. Its a good idea though too. Sometimes when im in a pinch, ill use the display to get me on track pretty fast but i try not to.
Your idea is pretty good though. |
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| recoil |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel
its always a good idea to practice beatmatching without the display. Often times i cover the display with a flyer
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i did that when i started, once again u present a good tip for training up the beatmatching ear.
Personally, i try not to relly on the bpm counter in the display & want to relly on the old ear holes to do the work. But i use the display to help w/ the fine adjustments (which brought me problems & started this thread) :)
when u guys say "ride', do you mean adjusting the slider or adjusting the wheel? ive heard that term heaps of times but not sure exactly what it means |
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| DJ_Rafnel |
As far as saying "ride" goes.
When i say ride the pitch i mean like the slider.
Usually though im kinda riding both. I have seen people beat match mainly only using the slider. I honestly use both probably equually.
Its like:
1. Start cued up track on downbeat of playing track
2. Adjust with platter to get on beat
3. Adjust slider accordingly depending on how far off beat it goes
4. Adjust platter
5. Adjust slider again
6. etc etc add infinite until its on beat
So its kinda like...a happy balance of both haha.
others do it differently, i guess its finding what works for you. |
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| Jarvmeister |
| With regard to the pitch slider not going where you want it to: That used to annoy the out of me when I used a friends 200, made them unuseable in my eyes, and made me glad I got the 1000mk3s. |
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| IpLaYWiTLiGhTs |
| quote: | Originally posted by recoil
i did that when i started, once again u present a good tip for training up the beatmatching ear.
Personally, i try not to relly on the bpm counter in the display & want to relly on the old ear holes to do the work. But i use the display to help w/ the fine adjustments (which brought me problems & started this thread) :)
when u guys say "ride', do you mean adjusting the slider or adjusting the wheel? ive heard that term heaps of times but not sure exactly what it means |
The slider.
Some people prefer not to touch the platter because you'll be interfering with the torque and accuracy. The record needs adjusting, not the platter, ya know?
I say it though, with quality equipment that isn't a problem at all. Use whatever works, whether it be finger breaking or pitch bending. |
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| IpLaYWiTLiGhTs |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWa7KCFIkzM
lol |
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| snatonsb |
| Hey guys whats a good way to practice with the slider...? I barley use it cause I don't use it well. I normally use the wheel. My beats normally start to drift but I want them to stay synced so I could eq better. Thanks alot! :) |
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| Cro_Addict |
Just practice and it will get better.
For all the people having problems on CDJs here is a tip.
Lets say you have 2 tracks
track 1: 125.xx
track 2: 127.xx
load up track 1 and start increasing or decreasing the pitch (moving the slider) until you see the BPM counter switch up to 126 and then stop.
load up track 2, start decreasing the pitch until you see the slider switch down to 125, now bring it back up slowly and when you see it switch up to 126 stop.
your tracks should now be lined up.
now restart track 2 on the downbeat and match it up with track 1 using the wheel.
This will work 99% of the time.
However don't rely on this, because if you play out you might not always get a perfect situation like you do at home.. So still make sure you can actually beatmatch by ear! |
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