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Random Breathalizer Tests? Another step towards a Canadian Police State! (pg. 2)
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Permits are not easy to get. You need to be having a special event and then have everything roped off and check ID.
But yeah drinking outside a licensed area is a fine and confiscation of liquor.
No drinks at beaches, parks etc.
Also we have last call at 2 and a ban on alcohol sales from 2 am to 11 am so champagne breakfasts are also illegal
And they do enforce it.. My uncle got done at the beach for having an open beer even though it was in a cooler. Apparently the cops were watching with binoculars?!?!? |
Jesus, that's a bit harsh. Lol at binoculars.
I think last call here depends of where the actual venue is. In Brisbane here, we have an 'entertainment precinct' in the Valley, and all the clubs/bars go right through until closing time at 5am. A lot of the cafe/bar type places open an hour later for breakfast (no alcohol until 9am though, I think).
Bars outside that precinct aren't normally open that late though. A couple near me close at about 2am, from memory.
And as far as driving goes, the legal limit is 0.05 |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Jesus, that's a bit harsh. Lol at binoculars.
I think last call here depends of where the actual venue is. In Brisbane here, we have an 'entertainment precinct' in the Valley, and all the clubs/bars go right through until closing time at 5am. A lot of the cafe/bar type places open an hour later for breakfast (no alcohol until 9am though, I think).
Bars outside that precinct aren't normally open that late though. A couple near me close at about 2am, from memory.
And as far as driving goes, the legal limit is 0.05 |
We dont have a special area for licensing. In fact the area that was zoned for clubs is now being zoned for condos... You dont even want to know the lengths they have gone to to try and get rid of the clubs.
Sad...
The only time we get close to an entertainment precinct is when TIFF is in town and the suits want to party. Otherwise its "war on clubland" |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontobarfly
they enforce it but not hard core
walk along woodbine beach on a weekend and coolers are everywhere
hanlans point might as well have a permit...booze everywhere and you can get high breathing in the air :D
people behave, no complaints, no big brother |
Tell that to my uncle, his lost 6 pack and his fine! Cant remember how much... something along the lines of a few hundred bucks. I think it was ashbridges bay. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
We dont have a special area for licensing. In fact the area that was zoned for clubs is now being zoned for condos... You dont even want to know the lengths they have gone to to try and get rid of the clubs.
Sad...
The only time we get close to an entertainment precinct is when TIFF is in town and the suits want to party. Otherwise its "war on clubland" |
It used to be the same here, before the precinct came to be a few years ago. All the apartment tenants were complaining that there was too much noise coming from the clubs, and too many people wandering around the area. In fact, it's probably still like that in many areas around Brisbane for clubs/bars that aren't lucky enough to be in the Valley area. |
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| Cro_Addict |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
It used to be the same here, before the precinct came to be a few years ago. All the apartment tenants were complaining that there was too much noise coming from the clubs, and too many people wandering around the area. In fact, it's probably still like that in many areas around Brisbane for clubs/bars that aren't lucky enough to be in the Valley area. |
:nervous: WTF are you doing outside of the c0r? |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cro_Addict
:nervous: WTF are you doing outside of the c0r? |
:stongue: Slow, boring day.
Sorry, I'll go :( |
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| Cro_Addict |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
:stongue: Slow, boring day.
Sorry, I'll go :( |
hahaha...
No... please stay :gsmile: |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cro_Addict
hahaha...
No... please stay :gsmile: |
:p |
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| torontobarfly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Tell that to my uncle, his lost 6 pack and his fine! Cant remember how much... something along the lines of a few hundred bucks. I think it was ashbridges bay. |
oh i don't deny your uncle got nailed...as i said they do enforce it but not strongly, or at least not strongly enough to deter others from taking their drinks to the beach
i saw a group of guys get nailed on the beach at ashbridges because they had their case of beer sitting right out in the open and they made no attempt to hide it...most people go from cooler to plastic cup without it being so obvious
if you go to carabana or pride you'll see tons of people walking the streets with beverages in their hands and more often than not the cops will turn a blind eye...sometimes someone will get nailed, some get warned, but most are ignored |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I really hope the conservatives ignore this recommendation... |
I certainly agree...but can't help note that this is *awfully* soft language, coming from TA's champion of personal freedoms.
had this been a provincial or municipal matter under McGuinty or Miller (or at the federal one under a Liberal gov't, I suspect), your words would be a bit more...animated.
admit it. ;)
IMHO this is a questionable initiative, at best, for anyone who is a staunch defender of personal liberty. that end of it being an "effective deterrent" does not justify the means.
it's one thing to have RIDE where cars are randomly stopped, drivers questioned, etc...but to compel someone to provide a breath sample is taking it quite a step further. doesn't the refusal to provide a sample carry the same penalty as a DUI conviction, btw? that ought to weigh in on the debate... |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
I certainly agree...but can't help note that this is *awfully* soft language, coming from TA's champion of personal freedoms.
had this been a provincial or municipal matter under McGuinty or Miller (or at the federal one under a Liberal gov't, I suspect), your words would be a bit more...animated.
admit it. ;)
IMHO this is a questionable initiative, at best, for anyone who is a staunch defender of personal liberty. that end of it being an "effective deterrent" does not justify the means.
it's one thing to have RIDE where cars are randomly stopped, drivers questioned, etc...but to compel someone to provide a breath sample is taking it quite a step further. doesn't the refusal to provide a sample carry the same penalty as a DUI conviction, btw? that ought to weigh in on the debate... |
So far its a bi partisan judicial committee. Trust me if a tory introduces this as legislation ill be just as harsh.
This idea is complete BS. Whats next? Random blood tests? Random car searches? |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
This idea is complete BS. Whats next? Random blood tests? Random car searches? |
We have random drug-driving tests over here now, almost the same as an RBT. They use a mouth swab, and run it through a machine thing, which tests for weed, speed, coke, E, etc.
How do you feel about that? :p |
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