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UFC 104 - October 24, 2009 (pg. 2)
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| iammesol |
| Pat Barry has in' laser guided fists! Damn! |
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| Renzo |
| Wow. No way. Machida lost that fight. I'm sorry, but Shogun won. What fight did the judges see? |
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| shaw |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renzo
Wow. No way. Machida lost that fight. I'm sorry, but Shogun won. What fight did the judges see? |
ultimate 100 knockouts?
yes, he avoided a lot, but he barely touched shogun after the 1st round. maaaaaybe you could give him the 4th after that rally. i guess they called that 1,2,4? idk. bad scoring. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaw
yes, he avoided a lot, but he barely touched shogun after the 1st round. maaaaaybe you could give him the 4th after that rally. i guess they called that 1,2,4? idk. bad scoring. |
Two judges gave Machida rounds 1, 2, and 3. One judge gave Machida rounds 2, 3, and 4. Neither interpretation really makes much sense. |
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| Boomer187 |
I was so happy after the 5th was over to think shogun won...then this garbage.
horse poop!
and wtf is with that 6'11" guy they showed afterwards. That dude looked decent. |
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| iammesol |
That's Stefan Struve. He's either ridiculously awesome or a douchebag. Depends on the fight.
And Rua is champion. I don't give a . |
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| Pete K |
| quote: | Dana White: "I think there will be a rematch" between Lyoto Machida and Shogun Rua
LOS ANGELES – Never one to bite his tongue, UFC president Dana White didn't take long to express his feelings on the main event of Saturday night's "UFC 104: Machida vs. Shogun" in Los Angeles.
"I thought 'Shogun' won the fight," White said as UFC 104's post-fight press conference opened.
White was just as displeased as most fans in attendance at Staples Center, as well as the majority of viewers at home, that champion Lyoto Machida was awarded a unanimous-decision win over challenger Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. But unlike the rest of those complaining, White can schedule a rematch – and it looks like he will.
"I think there will be a rematch," White said. "I talked to both of them, and they both agreed to a rematch."
The five round affair between Machida and Rua proved difficult to score. With both fighters remaining patient while picking and choosing their shots, neither outright claimed any of the frames. White said that's a behavior that needs to change moving forward.
"One of the things I always tell these guys is 'You can't leave it in the hands of the judges,'" White said. "You just can't do it. But at the end of every round, neither one of the guys went after it. Neither guy tried to steal the round.
"You saw it a lot in boxing – and these guys have got to learn it in MMA – is when that 30 seconds is left, go after it and try to steal that round. Neither one of them did it throughout the fight."
It was that inability to steal rounds that led to the hotly disputed decision. But while White claimed he felt Rua earned the win, the UFC exec admitted the rounds were close.
"When you go round-by-round and you score the fight, I actually had Machida winning the fight up until the third round," White said. "The first round could have gone either way. I gave the second and third to Machida. And then I gave the fourth and fifth to 'Shogun.' Assuming that 'Shogun' won the first, fourth and fifth, he wins the fight.
"I knew it was going to be a tough one. I knew it was going to be strategic. It was everything I thought it would be, except they should have pressed more and gone after it at the end of the rounds and tried to really pull out the rounds and make it easier to score. It was a tough fight to score."
White said he would have to figure out when a rematch could take place, but he think it should be the next fight for each competitor. And White said his motivation for scheduling a rematch has as much to with his desires as a fan as much as his concerns as a businessman.
"That's me the fight fan (and) the businessman," White told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "Whatever you want to call me, I want to see this fight again." |
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| wotyzoid |
| Was a joke. All those judges should be fired. Everyone knows Mauricio won. Poor Media stunt by the UFC or just a bought decision. |
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| Boomer187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by iammesol
That's Stefan Struve. He's either ridiculously awesome or a douchebag. Depends on the fight.
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yea he s pretty good, although now that I mentally match him up with Randy, or I guess with Cain Velasquez, he is not that awesome :) |
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| iammesol |
Precisely.
You just reminded me of how excited I am about Carwin!
and regarding Dana's commentary, he said "You know what I think about Mazzagatti. I don't think that guy should WATCH MMA, must less referee it."
Damn! |
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| shaw |
stuff like that sucks for everybody. the loser gets robbed, the winner gets booed, & the fans get angry. i kinda felt bad for machida at the end, 'cuz there's nothing you can really do, and you wind up having people hate you, instead of applauding your effort in a loss.
rothwell was getting killed, anyway, so that wasn't the same. still, mazzagatti s something up yet again. |
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| RapidFire |
| goddamn i was speechless last night. Im a HUGE machida fan but that decision was absolute bull. Shogun picked him apart, round after round. It was a landslide decision victory for him. I know Machida can beat shogun with a different gameplan. the potential is there but the fact remains Shogun should be holding that belt right now. Im disgusted with the judges and the UFC. |
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