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Well-written sci-fi? (pg. 4)
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You're Doing It Wrong. |
Actually, I already gave up on that. I now only read literature by people whose ideas I know are interesting beforehand (such as Kafka, Dosto, Sartre, and others). If a book is not written by philosophers or scientists (I still want to read B. F. Skinner's novel), then I am definitely going to approach it with caution. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I now only read literature by people whose ideas I know are interesting beforehand (such as Kafka, Dosto, Sartre, and others). If a book is not written by philosophers or scientists (I still want to read B. F. Skinner's novel), then I am definitely going to approach it with caution. |
It's kind of limiting to approach literature as a philosopher all the time... |
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| EgosXII |
orson scott card's enders game is awesome, was mentioned above but i'll second...
no idea about the dude personally since someone said he's a religious nut.. i don't think it comes across in the book...
awesome sci fi :) |
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| Lews |
Ender's Shadow was more interesting, imo.
The story is enjoyable, though the writing is not so great. |
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| Aaron C. |
By far my top picks from the classics :
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| Sunsnail |
| at the end of ender's game you find out that the practice sessions were ender directing actual battles, and they destroy the insect's homeworld, only for the queen ant to enter ender's mind and say sorry |
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| Pleasant |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
Philip K. Dick?  |
Can't recommend him enough. Schizophrenic genius madman. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
It's kind of limiting to approach literature as a philosopher all the time... |
I know but, if I don't enjoy the rest, why insist? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| People are just recommending their favourite SF now, aren't they? Hardly any of what's been mentioned is well written. Typical TA. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I know but, if I don't enjoy the rest, why insist? |
Who's "insisting?"
It just seems like philosophically oriented people sometimes have a narrow idea about what fiction is "for," like there has to be some kind of "argument" or "philosophical conclusion" in there for it to be worth the read, or else they have to justify their reading of it with some kind of intellectual superstructure about "social critique" as with Kafka. If that's what fiction is for, why not just read bullet-point summaries of the "ideas" each work contains and save the time?
Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but that seems like the way you're approaching novels. :-P |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Who's "insisting?"
It just seems like philosophically oriented people sometimes have a narrow idea about what fiction is "for," like there has to some kind of "argument" or "philosophical conclusion" in there for it to be worth the read, or else they have to justify their reading of it with some kind of intellectual superstructure about "social critique" as with with Kafka. If that's what fiction is for, why not just read bullet-point summaries of the "ideas" each work contains and save the time?
Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but that seems like the way you're approaching novels. :-P |
Exactly why I said he's doing it wrong. People who think literature has no worth, or is "masturbatory" if it doesn't contain some philosophical conclusion or statement on the human condition do not understand the joy of text. |
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