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cryophonik
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Originally posted by palm
second hand u can get one for 80, and then u have some nice ty distortion too.


You're talking about a basic and very crappy graphic EQ. A decent parametric hardware EQ (e.g., an Ashley or better) will run you several hundred dollars even for a second-hand one and will only give you half a dozen EQ bands (usually with fixed filter types and slopes), then you have to deal with round-trip latency and it's only good on one channel at a time. Your $80 EQ is also not going to give you:

- 24 bands of fully parametric operation (you can turn each band on/off independently)
- choice b/t zero-latency and linear phase mode
- Choice of bell, hi/lo shelf, etc. with 6, 12, 24 and 48 dB/oct slopes per band (hardware units are usually fixed in this regards)
- Real-time spectrum analyzer selectable pre/post
- Independent per-channel operation for every band (i.e., you can EQ each side of the stereo spectrum independently for every one of Pro-Q's 24 bands
- undo/redo
- A/B comparison

Even if there was a hardware EQ available that could do all of this, it would cost in the thousands of $$$ and you would still need dozens of them to mix a typical track (unless you plan on doing a lot of bouncing/printing of your EQ). Considering all that, Pro-Q isn't very expensive IMO.
palm
i get the same results with HPF,LPF,BPF and ThreeBandEq, all with Freq+Res knob only, only i dont have the spectrum analyzer. dont get me wrong, its probably or maybe undoubtedly a good plug, i just think that plugs like this should be included in any sequencer (which it is). For those who have loads of money though then sure go for it, but people with smaller budgets should use their money on other things. If id ever gonna pay that much for a plug-effect it should include everything; all types of filters, eqs, chorus, unison, flange, reverb, delay, distortion, compression. all in one big interface with loads of routing possibilities. id love that and i might actually bought something like that. actually id like to program it myself some day. :D
RichieV
200$ is what most quality plugins cost. And since eq is something you might typically have on each channel, I don't see what the pricing issue is.
cryophonik
The other thing to remember is that plugins like this aren't necessarily designed with the amateur/home studio hobbyist in mind. Most people who aren't pros don't need and/or can't tell the difference in features or sound to the extent that a professional can - the law of diminishing returns. And, of course, those extra features and better specs that pros are looking for invariably come with a much higher price tag. That doesn't mean that the rest of the market can't use or appreciate products like Pro-Q, but bedroom trance producers are probably not its primary target market. Besides, I'm sure that FabFilter realizes that the majority of amateurs are just going to use cracked versions anyway.
kitphillips
So do we reckon this will measure up to sonalksis' or waves' EQs?
cryophonik
quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
So do we reckon this will measure up to sonalksis' or waves' EQs?


I've only used the Sonalksis demo and it was a while ago so I can't really compare and IIRC was only like 6 or 7 bands (not that that's necessarily a bad thing), but I have the Waves Q10 and RenEQ. Feature- and spec-wise, neither one compares to Pro-Q. That said, I have only used all 10 bands on a Q10 a handful of times (I usually use the Q8 or Q6), so the 24 bands that Pro-Q offers are serious overkill for me - at least they're only visible when you want them to be, unlike Waves, in which the bands are visible even when they're inactive. Pro-Q's RTA is excellent. I haven't spent much time using the L/R capabilities yet, but I suppose it could come in handy in some situations. It's cool that you can edit several bands simultaneously. It's also very light on the CPU - not that the Waves EQs are CPU hogs either, but you'd almost expect an EQ with as many features as Pro-Q has to have a noticeable hit on your CPU.

Check out the demo - it's a very nice EQ and after you use it for a bit and feel how responsive it is and how practically implemented its features are, you might decide that it's worth it. After all, you'll probably use it on every track, right?!
Kismet7
Looks interesting.
LoveHate
can anyone tell me what the eq is used for?

i thought changing the levels on the mixer of each track to make it fit was enough, but im kinda confused.
Fledz
^^^lol?

You can split the bands on this multiple times :o
I love how it automatically changes the db if you go too high/low.
Analyzer is such an awesome feature that should really be in every EQ.

I've only played around for 5min but I really like it already. They make such aesthetically pleasing and functional VSTs. The ones we all grabbed in that bundle are wicked, so I have no doubt that this is as well.

I may just buy it.
LoveHate
dont laugh at me it was a serious question, ive been messing around with the eq vst on fl studio, though and i kinda know what its used for now.

Fledz
We have a master list stickied at the top for a reason. Here: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=48&s=

There's an EQ section there.
palm
quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
dont laugh at me it was a serious question, ive been messing around with the eq vst on fl studio, though and i kinda know what its used for now.
if u have ever had a stereo in your life it probably had a bass knob and a treble knob. those are eqs with really low res and only slight dB correction +-6-12dB and unchangeable freqs (like 100Hz, 10kHz). a simple daw-EQ usualy have two or three bands, of various freqs, various resonance. look at a dj mixer, there u have 3-band EQ with a little more extreme dB-correction, still with unchangeable freqs though.
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