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Is there a book that discusses the following topics at length?
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| DjStephenWiley |
First, I know a lot about these topics. Some more than others. I would love a nice in-depth read on them though. If anyone has any ideas, that would be greatly appreciated. Also, feel free to explain some of these things yourself if you like. Just please know what you're talking about and be objective about it. Thank you :)
Color, Coloration
Cross-fade (techniques, suggestions, etc)
Envelopes (Both filter and velocity) - Extremely in-depth here. I know how to shape envelopes to form certain sounds, but I'll bet there is more to them and I'd like to know more of the theory behind them (not just the basic ADSR )
Equalization - A filtering process of its own. Obviously know quite a bit about it. But would like to know as much as possible about it. Good example would be alias and introducing the law of marginal returns. I don't quite understand those things.
Glide/Portamento - I know the basics of what it does...but there has to be more to it.
Harmonic Series/Fundamental Frequency/Overtones - I know the general differences and how octaves are related to hertz and how important EQ'ing your harmonics properly is, etc. I know there is still a ton of information out there though that I do not know.
Key Follow
Note/Voice Stealing
Parallel (compression)
Phasing (in-depth)
Polyphony - How it works, what determines it, and why?
Ring modulation - I know what it is and how it works, but what makes it so special? Doesn't change the character much IMO. I know I have read it gives a more "analog" sound, but there has to be more information/techniques/theory/etc with Ring Mod.
Saturation/Distortion - (in-depth stuff)
Tremolo/Vibrato - I know what it is but actually struggle with creating it. Have put a fast LFO and such, but would love more information on this from a sound design and theory perspective.
That's it! lol
To those who actually made it through this read...I commend you :) |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
Ring modulation - I know what it is and how it works, but what makes it so special? Doesn't change the character much IMO. |
What ring modulators have you been using? :wtf:
| quote: | | I know I have read it gives a more "analog" sound |
Who told you that? That's rather bizarre as a description of what it does.
Here is some good info on ring mod: http://www.harmony-central.com/Effe...ing_Modulation/ |
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| palm |
| im saying what i always do when it comes to books; it, think about the planet! :whip: |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
im saying what i always do when it comes to books; it, think about the planet! |
A book can be in PDF or HTML form. ;) |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
A book can be in PDF or HTML form. ;) |
goodbye eyes, welcome -expensive glasses. |
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| DjStephenWiley |
just looking for something to read at work......they block pretty much everything so i end up with a lot of free time. i've read all the manuals on my hardware and software front to back. i thought about buying a computer with an 8" screen so I could write MIDI but I don't think it would go over well with my supervisor (I'm a night shift RN)
I just want something good to read that goes into depth about things commonly done and used in EDM. I think at this point I would say I am fairly well versed when it comes to the basics of things. And the whole "sounds like analog" ring mod thing actually came from a manual. (Korg Radias I believe) - I wouldn't know because I've never heard a true analog synth in action. But I do have some pure sample recordings of them but once you apply anything to them you're automatically turning it digital. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| That's weird, I've never heard anyone say that ring modulation makes something "sound more analog." It adds a bunch of non-harmonic frequencies to the signal, which doesn't really have anything to do with analog synths or equipment. |
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| DjStephenWiley |
I'd quote the radias manual but I sold it. Maybe the non-harmonics are perceived to be more analog because it brings a more unstable sound to the table versus a pure digital signal that is in perfect harmony with little to no dissonant overtones.
google it maybe ? i'm sure there is some stuff out there if you're curious about ring mod producing an analog sound. I personally don't care where the sound comes from. If it sounds good, it sounds good. End of story, period, game over. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
Tremolo/Vibrato - I know what it is but actually struggle with creating it. Have put a fast LFO and such, but would love more information on this from a sound design and theory perspective.
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Might want to try How to Make A Noise for envelop stuff. You could also just read a bunch of synth manuals. I think Z3ta has a pretty complex envelop system.
For Tremolo it's pretty easy. The key is to have a synth(or sampler like Sampler) that has an LFO that can be modulated with an attack time or else it doesn't sound "natural." |
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| cryophonik |
I think you'll find most of the info in the user manuals for your synth and many of the concepts/parameters you are asking about are implemented differently for each synth. For a more general reference that will cover many of the concepts you're asking about, I highly recommend:
Becoming a Synth Wizard - From Presets to Power User from Simon Cann. |
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| vikernes |
I don't think there's much to talk about most of the stuff you want to know. Like Polyphony, Key Follow, etc... I think you know what they do and things like Polyphony and note stealing isn't something that would be a factor when designing sounds, or? Unless you're asking for pure technical stuff - ie how they are implemented in synths and stuff. In that case, I can't help you. Maybe read some hardware synth manuals?
Further, for topics like Phasing, Equalization, Harmonic Series/Fundamental Frequency/Overtones and all that other "musical" stuff, I highly recommend Steinberg Internal Mixing DVDs. Trust me, I've read a lot of and watched a lot of videos, _nothing_ comes even remotely close to those DVDs.
They are a bit boring though - kinda makes you feel like you're in school or something, but the information you get out of that is incredible. The dude really knows his , and he's a respected producer and mastering engineer.
After that you may want to get Steinberg Mastering with Wavelab (same dude), but that's more oriented towards mastering than mixing, but still informative.
edit: just wanted to clarify more about what I mean with "boring". There's nothing about the topics discussed boring at all, but the dude talks really slowly (he talks german, but the voiceover is english) and he goes into insane detail about every topic. I don't remember exactly if its on the Mixing or the Mastering DVD - but there are like 5 or 6 videos just for discussing bit depth. after the third one I was like "yeah, I'll use 32 bits now off" :)
But that kind of detail and technicality is great for stuff like eq, compression etc... Which I imagine is just what you want. |
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