Just lost all respect for alan fitzpatrick...kinda sad. Maybe he wanted to do a remix ;)
Schadenfreude
welcome to electronic music...no scratch that, welcome to just music in general.
Everything is sample based these days, and credit is rarely given.
Is it right?
no
Is it going to stop?
Absolutely not.
Look at a mainstream act like the black eyed peas or kanye west for instance. They both have done nothing...and i mean absolutely nothing that was not stolen in some sense or another, yet will-i-am and kanye proclaim themselves as musical prodigies.
I used to get angry, but you learn to get a thick skin.
Really this isn't always a bad thing. It sucks to be the producer that is ripped off, but as techno fans we have to sometimes look back at the history and how this genre of music actually came about.
The Belleville Three (atkins/saunderson/may) are credited with coining the term techno. If you look at all of the releases they coined as such and can be directly attributed to the genre even being here today, all of the records were made by sequencing sounds from existing records into a new piece of music.
The Alan Fitzpatrick sample is pretty blatant though.
also..i used mr scruff - get a move on in a recent set. Someone pointed out that it was pretty much this:
you have to be deaf to not hear that mr scruff used this...yet moondog got 0 credit. I can attest to this, as there is not even a note in the ep sleeve.
Romchik22
Complete agree with Le Freak. Aspecialy in the hip-hop world, most of their "inspiration" for beatmaking comes from Nintendo games that were released in 1991
Monocle
I really liked that Face Of Rejection tune, kinda ruins it a bit... I really like the Parker tune anyway so it's all good I guess
Schadenfreude
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Originally posted by Romchik22
Complete agree with Le Freak. Aspecialy in the hip-hop world, most of their "inspiration" for beatmaking comes from Nintendo games that were released in 1991
forget just hip hop...even if you look at rock music you can see people playing the exact same chords in the same order as older tracks, and even re using some lyrics.
the inspiration behind hip hop has nothing to do with nintendo music...but that is another long ass post better saved for another day...i wanna go watch the habs lose.:p
imitation in art is a principle to it all. New ideas rarely come about in art, and are generally improvements or slight modifications of old ideas. This transcends music.
m0h
OMG NO FACE OF REJECTION, la track ke jaime le plus de lui , c une copie :( :(
edit : bah apres avoir reecouter les 2, wow il utilise juste le meme synth, la musique c dla copie sur dla copie, so jepnse pas c un super big deal
Randomly stumbled upon the 2nd searching for new tracks this week
DJ_LIFT
If it's a complete rip off then yes the artist should give credit to the original artist or simply call it a remix or something like that.
But to be fair , there is a finite number of ways you can create a completely original kick , bassline , melody , etc...
There is also a limit to how many possible notes and keys you have availble as well.... so eventually we will reach a point where unless someone can create some new sounds never heard before , the beats and basslines will start to repeat themselves.
This of course doesn't stop the exceptional artist with imagination and creativity from creating something new and never heard before... but for most producers who are working on there own EDM tracks... sampleing or unintentionally producing a sound that is "similar" to another track that is already out there is unavoidable.
