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are diminished chords used in trance (pg. 2)
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| RichieV |
| quote: | Originally posted by offensive_newbi
Well uh sounds somewhat like mozart's requiem. bu but its still more like classical! But well yes some classical tunes can be easily converted to trance like mozart's requiem or bach's air. bu but still? |
it isn't. But of course it sounds like classical because I used a block chord voicing to show the chords off better. You also don't have to use them all. And every trance progression is a quotation of some classical tune somewhere so get used to fact that every melody and chord progression you are using is probably been used 100 years ago. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
Synth1.mp3 - 0.29MB
made something quick to show you all those chords in a simple progression
dim7
half diminished
neapolitan 6
phrygian cadence
augmented chord
dominant 7
minor
major
all those chords are in this simple progression |
I think it sounds pretty cool - you should finish it and submit it to the TA album! |
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| Kysora |
Sounds like a progression Muse would use, I love it. |
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| offensive_newbi |
| But here is the challenge: Can someone of you make an uplifting progression/harmony/melody that is not clearly sad or happy AND uses off key notes and perhaps other than standard major/minor chords? |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by offensive_newbi
But here is the challenge: Can someone of you make an uplifting progression/harmony/melody that is not clearly sad or happy AND uses off key notes and perhaps other than standard major/minor chords? |
Why would you want your music to NOT convey some emotion? |
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| offensive_newbi |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Why would you want your music to NOT convey some emotion? |
But uplifting emotion? |
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| RichieV |
define uplifting
anyways, the answer is yes to all your questions. Yes you can use these chords and yes they are used. The line i made was on the spot to show all of the mentioned chords packed into one line. The point wasn't to create the best melody, in fact there really isn't a melody, but to work in all those chords people don't seem to think work in trance into a workable progression in the trance idiom.
here is a link to a tutorial I posted but nobody seemed to care so I just stopped
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=525446
this one is uplifting and has diminished chords and modal mixture.
uplifting with diminished chords |
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| Kysora |
| quote: | Originally posted by offensive_newbi
But uplifting emotion? |
If you used it to build tension that resolves into a major chord, probably. But there's probably better ways of doing that than using diminished chords. |
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| offensive_newbi |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
define uplifting
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i'll return that a bit later!
For some reason I have completely missed that thread. Maybe it was because of summer but I would definitely hear more. And those would be easier to read if they were in cmaj/amin uh sorry for my laziness but still! |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by offensive_newbi
But uplifting emotion? |
One diminished chord does not immediately make the entire track dark and brooding. The point of diminished and other dissonant chords is to resolve.
Diminished chords are used all the time. In trance, in progressive, in whatever. Listen to any Christopher Lawrence mix circa, I don't know, 2004 or earlier, and you'll hear a few hundred of them.
If they've become less common over the years it's probably because of the proliferation of cookie-cutter music from producers who know nothing about composition and just copy their favourite tracks. Obviously they are "harder" to use correctly than simple major/minor chord combinations and therefore many producers just don't bother. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Diminished chords are used all the time. In trance, in progressive, in whatever. Listen to any Christopher Lawrence mix circa, I don't know, 2004 or earlier, and you'll hear a few hundred of them.
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Could you give a concrete example of that ? |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Could you give a concrete example of that ? |
Well it'd be hard to produce a "recent" example in the trance genre since I haven't accumulated any of it since about 2004, but if that's not a concern then sure, let me know and I'll dive in. |
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