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Digweed loves tracks with poor arrangement decisions (pg. 2)
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| Schadenfreude |
i have no names off the top of my head.
you are saying that digweed always mixed from a to b, outro to intro, back then?
funny, i saw him play on 3 decks in the 90's and early 00's. ;) |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| There's so many things wrong with your post I don't know where to begin. Let's start with exactly how you got "digweed always mixed from a to b, outro to intro" from what I wrote. |
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| djhaziel |
| Dunno what digweed is playing atm , but he lost me last year .... I just got tired of the same "riding guy j's ass" bull . |
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| Schadenfreude |
generally when you incorporate an element from a 3rd deck into a transition, it can be considered a dj tool even if it is not marketed as such.
i'm not going to sit here and argue all day about it, i know what i saw/heard.. ;) |
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| costizzle |
i see the reason why this thread was started. I agree at the lack of energy a lot of his sets have been showing...they are just big room tech house tracks that can get my rocks off. i like the hard progressive he used to play..
but perhaps if you dont have a good speaker set up you can miss a lot of low frequency basslines in the drops of some of these tracks that can pack a lot of energy but cant hear them without a subwoofer...idk just a suggestion. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
generally when you incorporate an element from a 3rd deck into a transition, it can be considered even dj tool even if it is not marketed as such.
i'm not going to sit here and argue all day about it, i know what i saw/heard.. ;) |
You're not arguing with Slylee or Jenny now, you know. Let's go over the things wrong with what you're claiming.
1. You saw Digweed play with three decks in the 90s. Cool. Unless this was in 1995-1996 it wasn't in the "epic house days".
2. A track played on a third deck can be considered a DJ tool. Hardly conclusive evidence, given you can't name any of tracks or link me any sets. The likelihood is you've never heard him use DJ tools alongside epic house, you're just guessing he did it because you saw him do it with Twilo-era prog.
3. It's entirely possible to mix in other ways than intro-outro without using any kind of DJ tool. Digweed did lots of long blends and layers over the middle parts of tracks, but that doesn't make those tracks DJ tools.
4. Even assuming everything above is a non-issue, the reason I asked for names of these epic house DJ tools is because I'd be willing to bet they worked perfectly well in their own right, with no inexplicable arrangements that can only make sense when DJ'd. Because I've heard a -load of Digweed sets from the mid-90s, and I've never heard him play a track in that era that had these features.
The reason Digweed used to be good is because he took tracks good enough to play on their own and then used them as DJ tools. He didn't use half-finished, tily structured non-tracks and about with them so much they made sense. |
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| coroknight |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The reason Digweed used to be good is because he took tracks good enough to play on their own and then used them as DJ tools. He didn't use half-finished, tily structured non-tracks and about with them so much they made sense. |
Exactly why I began liking him in the first place. IMO, up until his 2008 EM he was fantastic. After that has been a steady decline |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by coroknight
I assume you are talking about the third track I posted and if you don't hear a massive drop in energy then you must be deaf.
Also, I've seen Digweed, Sasha, and Sasha + Digweed live. I haven't heard Reflections live but wtf does that have to do with the other tracks mentioned here?
I know it's hard to believe but massive energy drops don't work live.
Edit: The energy drop in the third video isn't AT 2:00, that's just a suggested starting point. The actual drop is around 2:15 |
Reflections is a huge track, loads of energy
The point you are talking about is when he mixes into Reflections, i mean, do you want just a constant energy level for the whole set? You know thats not the way it works, maybe the 3 tracks he played before that hadnt "energy drops"?
You have to bring it down to bring it back up again, especially if youre playing a long set - and that does work imho
On the other tracks, im not a fan of Emerald remixes but Binary Star System i like, and i like the way it switches rhythm near the end, one of the few decent tracks on Bedrock 11 actually..... |
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| Schadenfreude |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You're not arguing with Slylee or Jenny now, you know. Let's go over the things wrong with what you're claiming.
1. You saw Digweed play with three decks in the 90s. Cool. Unless this was in 1995-1996 it wasn't in the "epic house days".
2. A track played on a third deck can be considered a DJ tool. Hardly conclusive evidence, given you can't name any of tracks or link me any sets. The likelihood is you've never heard him use DJ tools alongside epic house, you're just guessing he did it because you saw him do it with Twilo-era prog.
3. It's entirely possible to mix in other ways than intro-outro without using any kind of DJ tool. Digweed did lots of long blends and layers over the middle parts of tracks, but that doesn't make those tracks DJ tools.
4. Even assuming everything above is a non-issue, the reason I asked for names of these epic house DJ tools is because I'd be willing to bet they worked perfectly well in their own right, with no inexplicable arrangements that can only make sense when DJ'd. Because I've heard a -load of Digweed sets from the mid-90s, and I've never heard him play a track in that era that had these features.
The reason Digweed used to be good is because he took tracks good enough to play on their own and then used them as DJ tools. He didn't use half-finished, tily structured non-tracks and about with them so much they made sense. |
i feel sorry for your gf when you eventually get one.
you will start to argue about sexual positions and call her a strawman when she refuses you anal. |
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| Morphology |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
i feel sorry for your gf when you eventually get one.
you will start to argue about sexual positions and call her a strawman when she refuses you anal. |
I'm sorry but... you just got utterly served, it seems. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You're not arguing with Slylee or Jenny now, you know. Let's go over the things wrong with what you're claiming.
1. You saw Digweed play with three decks in the 90s. Cool. Unless this was in 1995-1996 it wasn't in the "epic house days".
2. A track played on a third deck can be considered a DJ tool. Hardly conclusive evidence, given you can't name any of tracks or link me any sets. The likelihood is you've never heard him use DJ tools alongside epic house, you're just guessing he did it because you saw him do it with Twilo-era prog.
3. It's entirely possible to mix in other ways than intro-outro without using any kind of DJ tool. Digweed did lots of long blends and layers over the middle parts of tracks, but that doesn't make those tracks DJ tools.
4. Even assuming everything above is a non-issue, the reason I asked for names of these epic house DJ tools is because I'd be willing to bet they worked perfectly well in their own right, with no inexplicable arrangements that can only make sense when DJ'd. Because I've heard a -load of Digweed sets from the mid-90s, and I've never heard him play a track in that era that had these features.
The reason Digweed used to be good is because he took tracks good enough to play on their own and then used them as DJ tools. He didn't use half-finished, tily structured non-tracks and about with them so much they made sense. |
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| Seppuku |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
i feel sorry for your gf when you eventually get one.
you will start to argue about sexual positions and call her a strawman when she refuses you anal. |
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