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out of phase - that big a deal?
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meriter
I've got this great stereo depth tool but you can push it to the point where the sound goes out of phase, and when you test in mono stuff drops out. Is this really a huge deal? It sounds awesome in stereo but if you were to listen to it on a mono system parts would be quieter and not sound right. Is it really worth making sure everything sounds perfect in mono? Who really listens to music in mono anyway? Please advise.
palm
if u ever hope to have any success in a club (or radio) make sure your tracks sounds good in mono. its really not needed to have many elements in stereo. reverb, delay and a couple of synths or efex is really all you need in stereo. all drums should be mono imo. but ur not listening anyway so whatever.
RichieV
Most decisions are a matter of balancing the pros and cons. If the cons of having phase issues outweighs the aesthetic advantages of a wider stereo field, then it would not be a wise decision.
DigiNut
As Palm says, most club sound systems are mono. If you don't care about getting your tracks played out, then by all means, do whatever you like to the stereo field.
meriter
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Originally posted by DigiNut
most club sound systems are mono.


Really? Why?
palm
to avoid phase-problems people like u make.
Ry Thomas
quote:
Originally posted by palm
to avoid phase-problems people like u make.


:haha:
DigiNut
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Originally posted by meriter
Really? Why?

I'm not an expert on club sound system design, but off the top of my head:
  • A club may have way more than 2 speakers; it's far cheaper and easier logistically to do mono.
  • People are standing everywhere and facing all different directions; most of them wouldn't hear it the way it's supposed to be heard;
  • Because with all of the echoing, delays, and other nuances of a PA, you'd end up with all the same phasing issues anyway.
DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm not an expert on club sound system design, but off the top of my head:
  • A club may have way more than 2 speakers; it's far cheaper and easier logistically to do mono.
  • People are standing everywhere and facing all different directions; most of them wouldn't hear it the way it's supposed to be heard;
  • Because with all of the echoing, delays, and other nuances of a PA, you'd end up with all the same phasing issues anyway.


Spot on but I'm sure Freak could elaborate in more technical detail.

However, most clubs are DUAL MONO, which is not the same thing as mono (there is still left and right channels (unlike true mono where both channels are the same signal).

I disagree that ALL drums should be mono - Low perc, yes, hi perc and drums with sibilance can be stereo.
Beatflux
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Spot on but I'm sure Freak could elaborate in more technical detail.

However, most clubs are DUAL MONO, which is not the same thing as mono (there is still left and right channels (unlike true mono where both channels are the same signal).

I disagree that ALL drums should be mono - Low perc, yes, hi perc and drums with sibilance can be stereo.


What is dual mono?

DigiNut
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Originally posted by Beatflux
What is dual mono?

You honestly don't want to know. :p
IceColdWater
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
You honestly don't want to know. :p


I demand to know!!! :mad:
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