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FLS piano roll - what's the big deal? (pg. 2)
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DigiNut
The kludginess of that "piano roll" was one of the reasons I switched. Vastly prefer the way Cubase handles it.

Edit: WTF, WHY DOES IT FILTER THAT!!?!?!?
derail
I've used FL, Reason and Live as my primary sequencer at various times - for me Cubases's workflow, including the piano roll, are the quickest and easiest to use. To each their own, though. If some people see FL's piano roll as the best, good luck to them.
cryophonik
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Originally posted by DigiNut
The kludginess of that ****** roll"...


Are you referring to FLS or Live?
Omega_Blue
i've only ed around with fl studio and reason, and i thought fl's piano roll was much much more user-friendly than reason's. then again, i was accustomed to fl's for a long time, so maybe it was just because i wasn't used to it. the automatic snapping to grid with 1/4, 1/6, etc makes creating straight or triplet patterns a snap; and then holding shift while moving a note (no um.. "snapping" i guess) makes it easy to syncopate/"humanize" a pattern. also, editing velocity, volume, panning, automation, etc right underneath the piano roll is pretty in convenient.
evo8
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Originally posted by Beatflux
Pencil Tool -> Click On Note


Yeah but that means switching to the pencil tool.
floyd741
Maybe it's just me but I find Live's piano roll to be very easy to use. I don't understand why everyone hates it so much, especially people who say they could'nt find the piano roll. You click on a midi clip and it shows up, it's very simple actually.
evo8
If Live's was detachable that would be a start
G-Con
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Originally posted by evo8
If Live's was detachable that would be a start


Yes, but Ableton deliberately don't want anything to be detachable or anything to open in a new window. With every new feature, they find a way to incorporate it into the existing layout. This may be an annoyance to some but for the majority of Live users, including myself, this is one of the plus points of Live over other daws.
Acton
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Originally posted by G-Con
Yes, but Ableton deliberately don't want anything to be detachable or anything to open in a new window. With every new feature, they find a way to incorporate it into the existing layout. This may be an annoyance to some but for the majority of Live users, including myself, this is one of the plus points of Live over other daws.


True, but I certainly wouldn't mind the option of having the piano roll etc being shown seperate on a second monitor.
cryophonik
quote:
Originally posted by Acton
True, but I certainly wouldn't mind the option of having the piano roll etc being shown seperate on a second monitor.


+1. Options are always nice. OTOH, there's definitely a lot of appeal in Live's simplicity compared to the bloat in other DAWs.

evo8
quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Yes, but Ableton deliberately don't want anything to be detachable or anything to open in a new window. With every new feature, they find a way to incorporate it into the existing layout. This may be an annoyance to some but for the majority of Live users, including myself, this is one of the plus points of Live over other daws.


Meh, its not gonna make me switch to another DAW, im used to it by now. But it would be nice to have the option.
However i suppose if they made the piano roll detachable there would be calls for the mixer to be detachable etc etc
DigiNut
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Are you referring to FLS or Live?

FLS - never used live. The word in quotations was supposed to be 'piano'. Apparently the forum censors you if you put that in double quotations. ******". There, it did it again.
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