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2010 Vancouver Games Olympic Hockey Tournament (pg. 6)
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| Schadenfreude |
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| Scoops |
| what did don cherry have to say about the loss |
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| Schadenfreude |
| I don't know, i refuse to watch CBC. |
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| LeopoldStotch |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
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* cue benny hill theme song * |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by denys envy
He is the best Russian player to ever lace up some skates. Granted we've had superstars before, but none of his caliber. The guy is so young too, it's crazy that he's already viewed as a legend.
But he hasn't won anything yet. Ultimately he's getting a pass on that because he's so young. But sooner or later he'll be judged on not how well he played, but the silverware. I think he realizes that, and the Olympics are first in line. |
On a scale of 1-10, rate each of the following in their prime: Ovechkin, Federov & Pavel Bure.
Just curious how you rate the other two since you gave Ovechkin, who played a great game yesterday, that high of an acclaim. |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
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Pride cometh before the fall. |
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| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
On a scale of 1-10, rate each of the following in their prime: Ovechkin, Federov & Pavel Bure.
Just curious how you rate the other two since you gave Ovechkin, who played a great game yesterday, that high of an acclaim. |
before we get to that, and those guys are great, i would say players like Makarov and Maltsev would receive higher rankings from me than Feddy and Bure.
but you get what you asked for:
Bure I'd rank @ a 6, he was fast - probably the fastest Russian I've ever seen on the ice, but realistically that's why his game was so good - he was a great winger but never really made anyone around him that much better. dude could chase down the puck and had a great shot tho.
Fedorov was the best Russian player of the 90's. A force on the Red Wings and the Motherland's team. I'd say, at his peak, he was about an 8. Maybe 8.5... He could play any position, could do everything in the game, and we can go on and on about how great he was on the ice - but it was his personality and philanthropy off the ice that really made him a superstar.
I'd throw Overchkin down for an 8 out of 10 right now, the point is that he's not even close to his prime. He's only 24 and is already skating like the best of them. Imagine what he can achieve in 3-4 years, barring any setbacks (injuries, gun possession charges, etc.)
For each of these players, it comes down to achievements. Bure and Fedorov both won worlds, but Feddy's got the Stanleys. Both were top scorers at one point in time or another. But neither has Olympic gold - something very important in Russia. I think that's why Ovechkin and the rest of the team is so focused this time around - they know they can separate themselves from pretty much every Russian team (since technically the Soviets won gold last) by winning gold @ these Olympics. |
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| Schadenfreude |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
On a scale of 1-10, rate each of the following in their prime: Ovechkin, Federov & Pavel Bure.
Just curious how you rate the other two since you gave Ovechkin, who played a great game yesterday, that high of an acclaim. |
Ovechkin = 10. He is the most complete Russian player of all time. Not just a fancy pre madonna, but he has a physical side to him that frankly makes him the best hockey player in the world at the moment. I like Sidney Crosby and everything, but Ovie s on him.
Federov = 8.5 . A great player when he was in his prime, but he gets an 8.5, because although good he was never the best player in the world in his career span. A proven winner though. Had he retired a bit earlier, i might have given him a higher rating.
Bure = 7.5. Pretty much the same reasons as Federov. That and he had 0 durability. One of the best pure goal scorers the game during his days, but he was never the best in the world.
Ovie is, he is just that damn good...another level above all of the other level players because he will kill you so many ways.
If we lose to Germany tonight, I am jumping on the Halak bandwagon:p
btw you can't rate Ovechkin in his prime, because he hasn't reached it yet and is still very young...isn't that scary? |
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| Scoops |
speaking of Russian players how could one forget about:
Viacheslav Fetisov |
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| bamski |
Fedorov and Bure had a teammate in CSKA whom also ended up playing in the NHL.. Remember that one guy who played 77 games in 92-93 and ended up scoring a measely 76+51=127? That's 7 more than Fed's season record btw :p
76 in 77! |
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| bamski |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
Tretiak.:p |
Kasparaitis! |
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