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New Anti Rave Bill -= Plz Make This Sticky!!!! (pg. 2)
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| quote: | Originally posted by fastmp3
and i'm so glad to be living in Canada , it kicks usa's ass in electronica :d |
I'm so glad to be living in Holland :D |
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| Mail Man |
Hope it doesnt get passed.
Always somethin to do with politics :whip: |
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| Spad |
| Same thing happened with the Ciminal Justice Act over here a while back. It outlawed unlicensed parties where music with "repetetive beats" are played. In the end it pretty much killed the Rave Scene, but it helped turned the club scene into what it was today. Maybe the same will happen in the states and there'll become a lot more nightclubs catering for Trance with big name DJ's.... |
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| fade2darkdj |
| I believe this new BILL is direct result of the so called "CRACK HOUSE" law in which partys,clubs,events where drug use is evident can be shut down & raided like they have done in the past. Bottom line is if someone is going to do drugs there will always be a place no matter how many clubs,raves,etc. you shut down. Down here in Miami people party,stay out for days and clubs have a reputation of holding marathon dj sets & after,after,after,after,after hours clubs that go well into the next day if not longer. I don't see how these laws and bills would be able to have a direct effect on places like Miami who's nightlife brings in people from all over the world and who makes hundreds of millions of dollars every year in this culture. I guess this Bill gives new meaning to the Phrase"The Politics Of Dancing". |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by fade2darkdj
I believe this new BILL is direct result of the so called "CRACK HOUSE" law in which partys,clubs,events where drug use is evident can be shut down & raided like they have done in the past. Bottom line is if someone is going to do drugs there will always be a place no matter how many clubs,raves,etc. you shut down. Down here in Miami people party,stay out for days and clubs have a reputation of holding marathon dj sets & after,after,after,after,after hours clubs that go well into the next day if not longer. I don't see how these laws and bills would be able to have a direct effect on places like Miami who's nightlife brings in people from all over the world and who makes hundreds of millions of dollars every year in this culture. I guess this Bill gives new meaning to the Phrase"The Politics Of Dancing". |
Damn! How long are those "After-Hour" parties? They should be called "After-DAY" parties!!! :haha: Anyway, this new law, along with the "Policeware" law is dumb! Why? There's ALWAYS ways around things! The law is WAY behind the technology! That's a fact! Same thing with raves/parties/events: People just won't do the drugs THERE, they'll do it elsewhere. Everyone's smart enough to do that! Plus, about the "Policeware" law: What's that going to do? Most people build their own PCs from parts they buy SEPERATELY and put it together the way THEY want to. I can understand those "package PCs", where you go to a store and walk out with a big box with a PC and everything for it as one big package but, even with those, you can just wipe the HDD and clean-install the OS of ur choice. And if it comes down to it, if the Gov't wants MS to use Windows as "Policeware", people'll just move to Linux, where there are NO laws! After all, it's easy to use now. See, there are ALWAYS ways around stupid like this.
This government is getting dumber and dumber... |
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| DuMonde TrAnCeR |
| quote: | Originally posted by Az
America sucks, In the UK politicians were trying to legalise it a few months back (which failed), but they understand that ecstasy comes hand in hand, so clubs now have to make sure that they are suitably ventilated, free drinking water is available, and first aid assistance if necessary, which is nice :) |
u mean downgrade to class B, where it rightfully belongs, but theyre too in chicken coz about 99% of the country thinks ecstacy kills u str8 away or summat, so basically they wud get 0 votes if they downgraded E, which is what they cant afford. people need to be educated on this sorta thing, not it be secluded. coz to be honest wud u rather be in a club full of pill heads or a club full of drunk townies?
anyway i cud go on forever about stupdi laws, but i can safly say, im glad i dont live in america, the culture is being stamped out even before it has chance to develope :( |
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| Eu4ea_18 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spad
Same thing happened with the Ciminal Justice Act over here a while back. It outlawed unlicensed parties where music with "repetetive beats" are played.
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wtf, aren't beats supposed to be repetetive? THats the whole idea of rythm, it's constant.
:rolleyes: whatever, this is going to hit Cali's scene pretty hard if it passes. Interesting how it helped the club scene thrive in the UK.
The US is so paranoid, our gov kacks its pants about anything it's too old to understand. The punishment for x use can be greater than for rape and assault.
Next there will be cameras in the club stalls, and full cavity searches at the entrace. THe security here is already insane!
AND you are to soon be able to av a spliff in the comfort of your own home. Sheffield here i come...
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| Spad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eu4ea_18
wtf, aren't beats supposed to be repetetive? THats the whole idea of rythm, it's constant.
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Lol! That never even occured to me :) |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eu4ea_18
wtf, aren't beats supposed to be repetetive? THats the whole idea of rythm, it's constant.
:rolleyes: whatever, this is going to hit Cali's scene pretty hard if it passes. Interesting how it helped the club scene thrive in the UK.
The US is so paranoid, our gov kacks its pants about anything it's too old to understand. The punishment for x use can be greater than for rape and assault.
Next there will be cameras in the club stalls, and full cavity searches at the entrace. THe security here is already insane! |
It's so stupid because the Gov't should be caring about the REAL threats, like terrorism, etc. Because one day, they'll be back, and our gov't BETTER be ready! In fact, if u ask me, I think that the terrorists, instead of blowing up places like WTC, etc., they should blow up RIAA, MPAA, and whoever else is involved with that new law (SSSCA). Who agrees? Why should a crime lesser than assult/murder/rape/etc. be treated like something WORSER? I'm referring to drug (like "E") use, watching a few Pay-Per-Views for free, illegal distribution/selling of music/movies, etc. Our laws are messed up. You get 5 years in prison for commiting murder (killing someone) but, 20+ years if you steal an automobile or get caught with drugs. Isn't that dumb? When u stole, you didn't take anyone's LIFE, you just took a NON-LIVING OBJECT. About the drugs: It's not like you was doing something that would harm others, or even you, in some cases! I like to know what are the laws for things like this in OTHER countries. I know it can't be THIS bad! Keep me posted! Thanks! |
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| PhaseFour |
yea lol hes that mtv dj. :)
anyway, i think the way that the US deals with drugs is flawed. i sort of like how the military does out and blow stuff up in columbia (heheh GO ABT!). Im VERY much against drug use, but i dont think shutting down raves would do anything. thats already been shown by Prohibitiion, which tried to ban alchol/spirits all that stuff. my point is, theres no way in hell theyre gonna effectively enforce the law. another good example is the inability of the authorites to enforce the age limit for pr0n hehehe.
as i had said earlier think that the government should be focusing their efforts on the drug dealers. theyre the ones who push people to smoke crack and that sort of thing.
see, my school district made us history a graduation requirement. what pisses me off is that the bureaucracy refuses to study that themselves and ignore the only constitutional amendment (prohibition, cant remember the number) that was repealed
pahsefour
sorry for the crappy post, i gtg watch oreilly factor :) |
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| Busy Child |
| They need to worry about the smuggling of muslim "sleeper" terrorists getting into the country. More ppl die from bombings than at raves. |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Busy Child
They need to worry about the smuggling of muslim "sleeper" terrorists getting into the country. More ppl die from bombings than at raves. |
Yep... In the WTC bombing ALONE in September, ~5000 people suffered (died or is "missing"). I'm pretty sure that in raves ALL year long, ALL over the USA, there are less than 5000 deaths directly related to the raves. Anyone have any official stats for 1994 - 2001 in USA to prove this? I want to know the real numbers for this... |
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