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cryophonik
Question for you guys - if you are collaborating with someone, is it a violation of most licenses to share samples that one of you has purchased with your collaborator? In other words, say I am collaborating with Joe on a track and I create the drums using a dozen one-shots from my legitimately obtained Vengtekki sample library, can I share those with Joe as part of the greater project file and/or final product (under the assumption that he will not use them for his own projects, of course), or is he technically supposed to purchase the sample library himself?

I'm just curious and, yes, I'm aware that the sample provider is very unlikely to find out that I shared a few .wav files. I still would like to know, just to satisfy my curiosity. I'm thinking some of you guys who work in commercial studios may have some insight.
Subtle
Haha, thats a good question. I bet the legit answer will be no.
TranceLover007
IMO - as long as you are the co-producer, I don't see any problem why not (he not supposed to reuse it for his own benefits and keep it on his computer).

Cheers
cryophonik
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Originally posted by Subtle
I bet the legit answer will be no.


By "no", do you mean:

No, I'm not allowed to share the files

or

No, Joe is not required to purchase the sample library?
RichieV
not allowed to share.
Subtle
quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
not allowed to share.
cryophonik
That's what I thought you meant. ;) I always pretty much assumed that was the case.

A related question - at what point does an edited sample become original material? If I layer two or more drums together, EQ them, add effects, etc. and bounce them to a new wav, is it now an original "piece" that could be shared, sold, etc., just as if I had exercised my licensed authority to use them in a commercial piece?

Just trying to see exactly where the hair splits...
TranceLover007
Of course I'm not lawyer and I could be wrong, but if this answer in not you are not allowed to do this, than say goodbye to a lot of collaborations, because I can imagine (for example) to have/purchase all of your programs what you have in my studio LOL.

Cheers
tehlord
What about if your collaborator uses the samples you need for the collaboration in another track. And in that other track the samples happen to be played solo'd and dry. He then gives you permission to use and abuse that track at will.

:rolleyes:
cryophonik
quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
What about if your collaborator uses the samples you need for the collaboration in another track. And in that other track the samples happen to be played solo'd and dry. He then gives you permission to use and abuse that track at will.

:rolleyes:


Interesting scenario (loophole?), indeed.

cryophonik
quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Of course I'm not lawyer and I could be wrong, but if this answer in not you are not allowed to do this, than say goodbye to a lot of collaborations, because I can imagine (for example) to have/purchase all of your programs what you have in my studio LOL.



I'd say that synths/programs are a little more straightforward and explicit, but samples can get a little more tricky.
Kysora
Short answer, no, but honestly how much money are the original companies losing out on by a few samples out of the thousands that come in those packs being used for one track between two people, one of which paid for them?

I understand that's ultimately irrelevant to whether or not it's illegal, but still
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