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Preachy themes in movies (pg. 5)
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SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by RapidFire
wow. really?


Of course. It was terrible. It was completely contrived with a complete lack of drama and a plot twist I guessed straight away, all wrapped up in blindingly obvious political subtexts that just scream to the viewer: "How much different is your country to this, eh? EH?"
MrJiveBoJingles
Yeah, V For Vendetta really is quite demagogic.
The17sss
This pretty much sums up all preachy movie themes in one package. :stongue:

Domesticated
People who didn't like Crash: what in particular do you think is wrong with it? I think it's a pretty realistic representation of contemporary racism, if a little dramatised. Then again, it is a movie.
Lira
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Originally posted by Domesticated
People who didn't like Crash: what in particular do you think is wrong with it? I think it's a pretty realistic representation of contemporary racism, if a little dramatised. Then again, it is a movie.

It was like listening to a 10 minute long build-up in an old trance track: it focused on racism way too much. I find the topic fascinating, but I just couldn't stomach it after a while.
The17sss
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Originally posted by Domesticated
People who didn't like Crash: what in particular do you think is wrong with it? I think it's a pretty realistic representation of contemporary racism, if a little dramatised. Then again, it is a movie.



It was just too overdone. Too much coincidental irony in every scene. Every action and choice made by every character is done so with racist intentions or because something "racial" had been done to them. The characters keep making purposefully stupid decisions, and we know what's going to happen. Then everyone learns their lesson... lol.

Here is the entire movie:

1) Set the stage with stereotypical expectations (black guys bitching about how white people always look at them like criminals).

2) Present irony (same 2 black guys rob rich white people, fulfilling the cliche'd stereotype they were just bitching about).

3) Create circumstances where something trying occurs which makes them reflect and reevaluate their own behavior... thus leading them to the path of triumph or tragedy.

Rinse and repeat in each subplot.
nefardec
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Of course. It was terrible. It was completely contrived with a complete lack of drama and a plot twist I guessed straight away, all wrapped up in blindingly obvious political subtexts that just scream to the viewer: "How much different is your country to this, eh? EH?"



hated it as well

not nearly as much as avatar, though.


i can't stand documentaries that are overly propagandistic.


also 'the baader-meinhof complex' which is like a militant leftist's wet dream.
w_ashley
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Are there any didactic sorts of themes that annoy you in movies? Times when the director tries too hard to drive home a "lesson" and it just grates on you? For example, a lot of people thought that Avatar overplayed its hand with the "greedy technological colonists versus noble pure natives" trope.

What are some examples of movies that obviously have a rhetorical purpose or "moral" to get across and annoy you for that reason?


Weird I thought avatar was all about glade plug ins?
Lira
You know, I'm under the impression that "Lost in Translation" kind of wanted to preach something. If it did, I hated it. If it didn't, I loathed it :p
Meat187
You know, I'm under the impression that Lira's avatar kind of wants to preach something. But I'm too ing disturbed by it to figure it out. Therefore I hate and loathe it. :p

Lira
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Originally posted by Meat187
You know, I'm under the impression that Lira's avatar kind of wants to preach something. But I'm too ing disturbed by it to figure it out. Therefore I hate and loathe it. :p

:D

Oh, yeah, I also detested Avatar because the women were all flat-chested. Who on Earth longs to live with those people, for Christ's sake!?
Meat187
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Originally posted by Lira
Oh, yeah, I also detested Avatar because the women were all flat-chested. Who on Earth longs to live with those people, for Christ's sake!?


I keep wondering what would happen in Avatar if those blue people didn't look like lovely blue people with big eyes, big lips, and a too flat chest. What if they looked like walking fish with tentacles? This thought alone, in my eyes, makes the entire plot and its preaching look enormously stupid.
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