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Why I Love My UAD and Dispise Waves
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| alanzo |
Waves recently released a new suite of plugins called the "CLA Bundle" named after an engineer named Chris Lord Angel (who I am in no way attacking). You can see the plugins here : http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=9297
Note the disclaimer at the bottom: "LA-2A, LA-3A and 1176LN are registered trademarks of Universal Audio, Inc. Any similarity with the Waves CLA Classic Compressors is not intended to imply any license by, nor an association or affiliation with, Universal Audio, Inc."
Sooooo now not only is Waves ripping off UAudio's plugins, but also their original hardware designs. I'm betting they're going to go for the Cooper Time Cube or FATSO next... |
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| Storyteller |
Yes, darn those playstation-like usb-controllers as well!
And while we're at it, the cheap remakes of expensive perfumes.
AAARG! |
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| alanzo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
And while we're at it, the cheap remakes of expensive perfumes.
AAARG! |
I know! Damn them! |
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| Derivative |
| Well you know what they say. Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery and all. |
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| Ry Thomas |
| quote: | Originally posted by alanzo
Waves recently released a new suite of plugins called the "CLA Bundle" named after an engineer named Chris Lord Angel (who I am in no way attacking). |
chris lord alge |
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| Zombie0729 |
| i didn't know chris angel from mindfreak made music!!!!!!!! |
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| thecYrus |
and universal audio imitates the name but not the sound. so what's better? ;)
i don't like both brands so i don't really care what they're doing... |
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| kitphillips |
:haha: ARe you drunk alanzo?
*Alge
*dEspised
*Waves emulate everything, and you're only sore because you forked out for a dongle that takes up a PCI card and now you know you could get a native version cheaper and without the annoying dongle. |
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| Richard Butler |
SEAN TYAS tip I read today in FM 226;
"Be really careful about how you use your master effects like the Waves L2 which isn't a very kick freindly limiter". |
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| alanzo |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
:haha: ARe you drunk alanzo?
*Alge
*dEspised
*Waves emulate everything, and you're only sore because you forked out for a dongle that takes up a PCI card and now you know you could get a native version cheaper and without the annoying dongle. |
I had a couple beers at the time of posting but I also can't spell. :p
Anyway, the point of the thread was just to bitch about Waves ripping off UAD. It's kind of silly when several companies (U Audio, Waves, URS, Nomad Factory) all come out with emulations of the same thing when it takes just one to do it right (U Audio). :) |
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| jupiterone |
pretty sure there are many ways to achieve the same result you may achieve with UAD
exactly what is not annoying about a pci card? a dongle is usb. a pci card only works with a computer that has the ability to use pci. also, not everyone wants to dish hundreds of dollars on a pci card, not everyone produces on a pc or a mac pro. it's providing choices for the consumer, it has nothing to do with ripping anyone off. yes, i'd love UAD plugs, but would i spend money on some that really has no effect on my creativity? no i wouldn't. that's like me buying a minimoog just to have a minimoog when i can just get the arturia emulation of a minimoog in software format for a fraction of the price |
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| Derivative |
He means that folks like Lexicon, Softube, Soundtoys etc are releasing native plugins with no latency and light cpu load so in this day and age of massive parallel processing with multicore super CPUs, DSP cards are increasingly becoming glorified dongles because they aren't necessary. At this point it just makes it harder for the software to be cracked.
I do admit that releasing any plugin natively will probably result in it getting cracked in less than a day by Team AIR. I'm not against dongles by any means but hell even ilok has been busted wide open. I'd support any dongle/copy protection system provided its not incredibly intrusive and as long as it actually worked.
The Steam model of software license purchase and distribution is the one to look for. Honestly, Steam is so good, so useful and so damn fast and convenient that the positives outweigh the negatives. I'd sign up to a service like steam for vst plugins where licenses are tied to an account and you can download them anywhere, any place from that account only. Beats the crap out of USB or PCI dongles. |
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