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| DJ Robby Rox |
So in Fl Studio to produce in mono all I have to do is move the master either full left or full right?
And thats after making sure all the elements in the other channels are panned dead center?
I've heard about this producing in mono thing for ages now but have never tried it.
What do I look for once I adjust the master? For sounds to drop out, for volumes to change? and than do I fix/balance them in mono and just put it back to stereo?
This is how it would be done in Fl right? I guess I could see how it would keep your bass/kick tigther, but I'm afraid any seperated leads or pads are going to drop out completely, while I WANT them in the mix. So mixing in mono seems like a weird concept to me. Pan left, find mistakes, fix mistakes, put back in stereo, and now its suppose to sound better right?
Actually very excited to try this the second I get home. See if it does anything for my mixes. |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
So in Fl Studio to produce in mono all I have to do is move the master either full left or full right?
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No. You either need to do it post-master (outside the DAW) or use a plugin like Kelly Industries Stereo Tools to collapse the master channel to mono.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
And thats after making sure all the elements in the other channels are panned dead center?
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Not really. A stereo track panned center is still stereo. It doesn't make it mono.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I've heard about this producing in mono thing for ages now but have never tried it.
What do I look for once I adjust the master? For sounds to drop out, for volumes to change? and than do I fix/balance them in mono and just put it back to stereo?
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If certain parts of your track disappear then you know you have phase issues that need to be corrected by narrowing their stereo field.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
This is how it would be done in Fl right? I guess I could see how it would keep your bass/kick tigther, but I'm afraid any seperated leads or pads are going to drop out completely, while I WANT them in the mix. So mixing in mono seems like a weird concept to me. Pan left, find mistakes, fix mistakes, put back in stereo, and now its suppose to sound better right?
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I think you may have a misunderstanding of what this is supposed to accomplish. Mixing in mono helps you to concentrate on mixing vertically without worrying about your stereo field. Then once you have your mix vertically balanced then you can start in on the width of certain elements.
Its not just about mixing in mono, but its also about the concept that if you have the majority of your individual tracks in mono and only a few stereo tracks, then the contrast will allow those stereo parts to stand out a bit more without the need for overly widening them which is the cause of phase issues. The result is that you'll have better control over your stereo field because you have fewer elements that are competing for horizontal space in the mix AND your mix is more likely to translate better on mono or dual mono systems.
Over use of individual stereo tracks can be a cause of an undefined mix and this is especially evident in busy genres such as trance where there are a lot of parts playing at the same time. |
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| Existo22 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
If certain parts of your track disappear then you know you have phase issues that need to be corrected by narrowing their stereo field. |
Phasing can be corrected by delaying one channel on your stereo tracks in the mix by a few milliseconds and listening in mono till da problem is fixed.
No need to fuk wit the stereo field and make it sound all narrow ;) |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Existo22
Phasing can be corrected by delaying one channel on your stereo tracks in the mix by a few milliseconds and listening in mono till da problem is fixed.
No need to fuk wit the stereo field and make it sound all narrow ;) |
That's true but some sounds, especially complex timbres start to sound seriously off if you delay one side too much.
Also the other problem is that most clubs are dual mono so you'll loose some really nice spread in the mix the moment it's played on a club system so checking in mono is essential for edm.
For instance if you have really wide elements that are a "selling point" of your track, they will be gone the moment it goes mono.
The last three sentences are as good an explanation of why you should mono check as you're ever going to get. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| Robby Rox gets schooled again woohoo |
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| d_Verge |
Goto 9, the knob in the top right corner of the box controls stereo seperation. Turn it all the way right to close it, and your track is now in mono. |
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| music2dance2 |
| Once you figure out how to do this its a great help. Really helps with getting the correct levels and sometimes the right sounds/samples to work together, along with may other uses |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by d_Verge
Goto 9, the knob in the top right corner of the box controls stereo seperation. Turn it all the way right to close it, and your track is now in mono. |
Wow I've actually used this same knob to go from mono samples to stereo. I'm such an idiot for not realizing the other way was mono. Going to play around with it right now, thanks! |
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