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The Long Tail of Electronic Dance Music (pg. 2)
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| user19503 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Except, those who believe stuff without melodic content is music... are wrong. |
what is it then? noise? |
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| Morvan |
| Anyone else thought this was going to be about Reverb? |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by msz
get off your high horse cryo. music means different things to different people. both melodic content and content without can be great. theres a time and place for both. so please... |
First of all, I was expressing my opinion, as evidenced by the use of terms like "...it's become apparent, to me at least.." and "...in my view...". It's a forum - we express opinions here, and sometimes someone will have an opinion that differs from yours. No need to get sensitive about it, but I do apologize if I offended you or your musical preferences.
Second, you're 100% correct regarding melodic content. But, the problem as I see it is that EDM has become stagnated by the huge number of people who seemingly fail to even consider the importance of melody and harmony. Step outside of EDM forums for a bit and you'll see that I'm not the only one who believes that EDM has become stale, largely because of the reasons I mentioned in my post, "oom-pah-itis", etc. |
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| msz |
| im sorry you feel that way. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by msz
im sorry you feel that way. |
So am I. :p |
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| m303 |
| quote: | | Originally posted by cryophonik But, the problem as I see it is that EDM has become stagnated by the huge number of people who seemingly fail to even consider the importance of melody and harmony. |
I have the same opinion. That does seem to be the problem. |
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| user19503 |
the problem occurs when someone who doesnt understand melody try to make one and then other people who also doesnt understand likes it. :p
uh is that really a problem? |
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| zodiac9 |
Yes, interesting read. Nothing we don't already know, but I like to see it all laid out in a neat, orderly fashion. Never heard the term "The Long Tail", it makes a lot of sense in regard to the EDM biz. I'm pretty convinced now that piracy isn't the main problem. I'm rather thrilled to see my releases up on 4 or 5 torrent sites and music blogs. I feel it can only help me get exposure.
I don't even listen to EDM anymore. I used to listen to DI.FM progressive, but at some point I lost interest with the endless amount of new, uninspired tracks I was hearing. I still produce though, because I enjoy it.
Having a solid knowledge of music is important with EDM. The progressive tracks on vinyl, from the early to mid 2000's, could be simple at times, but were crafted well. It takes a special knack to put together an interesting and inspiring piece of music. Other tracks from the era were fairly complex musically. It's all about crafting a good song, and having the experience and knowledge to do it.
I'm not even sure if the EDM crowd wants musicality anymore, maybe they like a groovy beat with a few simple melodies and chord changes. Perhaps the music people buy now is more personality/DJ based. That would be "branding" of course, and if an artist manages to do that, they will rise farther to the top of that long tail.
Oh well, I will never complain about the market. It is what it is. No one can change it, you have to just try to go with the flow. Stick with making music that inspires you, maybe it will catch on. |
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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by zodiac9
No one can change it, you have to just try to go with the flow. Stick with making music that inspires you, maybe it will catch on. |
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Really sucks you feel that way; couldn't be further from the truth. |
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| gr8ape |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
It's an interesting article, although it really seemed to just summarize the same topics that get rehashed on forums on a somewhat regular basis. Also, I think it leaves out one very important factor in the decline of EDM - the lack of musicality. Judging from the many discussions of what makes EDM "pro" on the many music forums, it's become apparent to me, at least, that the new breed of EDM producer that is watering down the scene is under this assumption that EDM is all about two things: (1) the technical aspect, and (2) the "groove", yet believe that having musical knowledge is a much lower priority, or even a hindrance. So, where has that left us? Loads of track that are technically very good and, in some cases, with a solid feel, but lacking anything interesting in the harmonic/melodic department and often rehashing the exact same chords used in countless other EDM tracks.
In my view, EDM producers need to wake up and start understanding that the most important aspect of music is,....duh...the music. But, that's also the most difficult and time-consuming part to grasp and perfect, it can't be learned by following a tutorial, and it can't be downloaded from a warez site. |
vouch
and then I get flamed on gearslutz for saying eric prydz isnt good music |
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| Lolo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Jeez. $1,100 per month is like $13,000 a year. You can barely live on that. |
Welcome to the real world they said, and they were right.
I used to earn up to 100 000 $ a year off music sales only. Today if I get 10 that's already a lot of money.
It's probably better that way, so after a while, when those greedy people who only do it for money will disappear, we'll be able to focus on the main part of this "business": the music.
Who cares about money being made after all. Let's forget about that for a second and think about the music that could be made and performed if we didn't have to worry about the money that it would generate. People don't want to hear products being played by turntablists, they want to hear pieces of art being played live by musicians. And EDM doesn't escape to that rule... Or are we that dumb so we think we can keep faking it??
Face it guys, the fastest track to recovery for the dance industry is to put an end to the supremacy of the overmarketed-often-overrated-DJ and learn to play music. The music bizz has never existed to my eyes, and I quit seeing that business as a money machine a loooooong long time ago. |
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| jupiterone |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Jeez. $1,100 per month is like $13,000 a year. You can barely live on that. |
you can, but have fun eating ramen for breakfast lunch and dinner while living in a really apartment :p |
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