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What comes after finishing a tune (pg. 2)
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| quote: | Originally posted by Felix Hoo
ah sorry... I was thinking in the lines of getting the tune to a record label? Making money from the arts? |
There's not much to make in EDM. You might get beer money, but that's about it. That doesn't mean it comes without rewards. Assuming your label promoted you well, you can vanity google yourself and see your song on torrents, or see people who have charted your song...lol
As for signing, just send your songs out to labels. smaller ones will usually get back to you in a day, the bigger ones in a month at most--if they decide to get back. |
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| Richard Butler |
If there is no money to be made, why so many labels? They can't all be on the verge of bankcruptcy.
The label Im signed to has staff and premises, marketing and insurance to pay for. Are they just doing it for the hell, and unable to feed thier kids?
PS - I have no expectation of money myself, if it comes it's a bonus. |
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| user19503 |
1. make track
2. ???
3. profit |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Richard Butler
If there is no money to be made, why so many labels? They can't all be on the verge of bankcruptcy.
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The age of digital distribution has removed most of the cost associated with running a label. It costs next to nothing to gather mp3's from artists and have them posted on Beatport. Its not like it was in the days of vinyl where money had to be put up front to finance the cost of pressing vinyl.
| quote: | Originally posted by Richard Butler
The label Im signed to has staff and premises, marketing and insurance to pay for. Are they just doing it for the hell, and unable to feed thier kids?
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You label is likely the exception and not the rule. Of all the label owners I know, the large majority of them do not depend on label revenue to pay their bills. They have day jobs for that and running the label is simply a hobby of passion. This holds true for producers as well. The ones that are not major touring DJ's have to work for a living like everyone else.
Nowadays, the biggest separation between smaller labels and the larger ones comes down to the amount of promotion that is done for each individual release and the label in general. The bigger labels have the bigger DJ's. Those DJ's tour and draw in large crowds which promotes the brand of the label and the DJ. Many of the bigger labels have resident nights at large night clubs, which also helps promote the brand of the label and, in turn, the DJ's who are on that label.
Smaller labels cannot do this on the same scale, and therefore their revenue streams almost directly parallel the amount of money and time they are able to put into promotion. |
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| Villan881 |
| At the risk of posting a trite remark, making music is its own reward and we musicians are blessed that we can do it and love doing it, whatever our skill level. |
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| EddieZilker |
Honestly, having a little more time to put in a more thoughtful remark than my earlier banter, I'm doing it with no other source of income. Could I sell my tracks on Beatport? Probably, but to what end?
The market is as saturated with a lot of crap as much as it is compromised with a lot of piracy. In that condition, it seems like I'm getting more done, promotionally, just giving it away.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to make money, at this. I love doing it. I put a lot of work, into it. At some point, however, while I'm doing something that I love to do and wouldn't be doing, if I didn't, I don't think it's far off to be making some scratch at it, too.
I'm not looking to be driving a Ferrari and living in a Condo, over-looking Times Square. I'd like to be earning a living, however. Regardless of the fact that it definitely is fun to do, it's also a lot of work. |
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| mize |
Do a Steven King, yes hi writes book, I writes music
Take your track and lay it off for 3 month (Don't play it, don't open it or what ever)
Get some distance
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after 3 month check back and fix what's needed to fixed
send it to someone ho can get some constructive criticism then
send it to masterstudio
after that you can post it here and get ego boast or send it to label and hope for money and fame :P
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All Creative work is never finished there only different points of abandoning! |
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| EddieZilker |
| ^Yeah, but Stephen King tends to write himself into corners he gets bored with and then seems to abruptly "finish" a book with an awkward plot-twist or strange allegory (allegory in the case of Rose Madder). :) |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by mize
...or send it to label and hope for money and fame :P
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I send songs to labels on occasion, but not really for money or "fame", per se. Monetarily speaking, I realize that I'll never make much cash off a song and I'm never going to get back what I've invested into my gear. And, I'm not looking for a new career path, so I'm fine with that. As far as "fame" goes, I'm honestly more interested in having the song do well and get some exposure than I am in people recognizing me, or having unrealistic expectations of becoming the next Tiesto.
It's just my 2 cents. And I only mention it because I suspect that I'm not the only one here who sends tracks to labels with less ambitious/more realistic goals than fame/fortune. |
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| Villan881 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
I send songs to labels on occasion, but not really for money or "fame", per se. Monetarily speaking, I realize that I'll never make much cash off a song and I'm never going to get back what I've invested into my gear. And, I'm not looking for a new career path, so I'm fine with that. As far as "fame" goes, I'm honestly more interested in having the song do well and get some exposure than I am in people recognizing me, or having unrealistic expectations of becoming the next Tiesto.
It's just my 2 cents. And I only mention it because I suspect that I'm not the only one here who sends tracks to labels with less ambitious/more realistic goals than fame/fortune. |
Well said :) |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
^Yeah, but Stephen King tends to write himself into corners he gets bored with and then seems to abruptly "finish" a book with an awkward plot-twist or strange allegory (allegory in the case of Rose Madder). :) |
Sounds just like your average prog house/"uplifting" trance producer. |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
The age of digital distribution has removed most of the cost associated with running a label. It costs next to nothing to gather mp3's from artists and have them posted on Beatport. Its not like it was in the days of vinyl where money had to be put up front to finance the cost of pressing vinyl.
You label is likely the exception and not the rule. Of all the label owners I know, the large majority of them do not depend on label revenue to pay their bills. They have day jobs for that and running the label is simply a hobby of passion. This holds true for producers as well. The ones that are not major touring DJ's have to work for a living like everyone else.
Nowadays, the biggest separation between smaller labels and the larger ones comes down to the amount of promotion that is done for each individual release and the label in general. The bigger labels have the bigger DJ's. Those DJ's tour and draw in large crowds which promotes the brand of the label and the DJ. Many of the bigger labels have resident nights at large night clubs, which also helps promote the brand of the label and, in turn, the DJ's who are on that label.
Smaller labels cannot do this on the same scale, and therefore their revenue streams almost directly parallel the amount of money and time they are able to put into promotion. |
Thanks for shedding some illumination on this Eric.
I have my own business, but I thought it would be fun to make a little fun money on the side.
Here's a thought. The biggest selling live standup comedic DVD in the UK, nets the comedian a cool £2m pa! If only us musios could find such a model! |
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