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Barça- Inter [Champions League discussion] (pg. 4)
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| Danny Ocean |
| quote: | Originally posted by daydreamer
Visca Barça!!!!
Hoy, hay que ganar! |
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaha |
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| woscar |
| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
Busquets...lol.
I love watching Barca play, but they chose the wrong tactics. They raced to Inter players, gained possession very quickly, and attacked non-stop. To do this agaisnt the team with the best defense in Europe is a mistake. This works against teams with average to low defensive discipline.
They should have let Inter play and control some of the possession, separating the space between players and possibly tiring them out. They invited Inter to park the bus, and Inter did just that, with brilliance. Pep lost this match before it was played. |
I disagree. Pep's only mistake was starting Zlatan instead of Bojan. Inter barely held on, nothing brilliant about that. |
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| Danny Ocean |
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| OurManFlint |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
Inter barely held on, nothing brilliant about that. |
Really? 10 men held off the best attacking club in Europe.
They should have let Inter play more, that would be the only way they would have created space between their defense to score. |
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| woscar |
| Again, there's nothing brilliant about having 9 men behind the ball and inside the box. Had Bojan been there from the start, I'm willing to bet that Barca would have solved the game within the first hour. Every ball Zlatan touched was a dead ball, he certainly wasn't the kind of forward needed for this game. |
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| d-miurge |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
Again, there's nothing brilliant about having 9 men behind the ball and inside the box. Had Bojan been there from the start, I'm willing to bet that Barca would have solved the game within the first hour. Every ball Zlatan touched was a dead ball, he certainly wasn't the kind of forward needed for Barcelona |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian
Antifootball 1 Barca 0 |
Bull. Inter scored three goals at the San Siro - no other team has done that to Barca in 24 months. When you go a man down at the Nou Camp, do you play open football out of some idiotic notion of how the game "should" be played? No. Any ing team in the world (except Arsenal) would do what Inter did tonight if they had 10 men and 3 goals. The difference is that Inter are possibly the only team in the world who could pull it off.
Anyone chatting about how Inter played anti-football, or did nothing special is a biased culé or knows nothing about football. Inter's defensive play, from the goalkeeper up to Eto'o, was superb. |
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| woscar |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Bull. Inter scored three goals at the San Siro - no other team has done that to Barca in 24 months. When you go a man down at the Nou Camp, do you play open football out of some idiotic notion of how the game "should" be played? No. Any ing team in the world (except Arsenal) would do what Inter did tonight if they had 10 men and 3 goals. The difference is that Inter are possibly the only team in the world who could pull it off.
Anyone chatting about how Inter played anti-football, or did nothing special is a biased culé or knows nothing about football. Inter's defensive play, from the goalkeeper up to Eto'o, was superb. |
Bull.
Inter obviously played an entire different game at San Siro against a Barca that had just endured a 1000km bus trip and that's not what any of us are criticizing. Inter started playing like this right from the start, a well half hour before Motta was sent off so the argument of "any ing team in the world would do what Inter did tonight if they had 10 men and 3 goals" is bull.
And yes, Inter played anti-football any ing way you want to look at it. That is not how a billion dollar, world class team should win games. They were extremely lucky Bojan's header didn't go in and that the referee disallowed a completely legitimate goal. Had Barca went through, you wouldn't be talking this bull about Inter's "brilliant strategy". |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
Inter obviously played an entire different game at San Siro against a Barca that had just endured a 1000km bus trip and that's not what any of us are criticizing. Inter started playing like this right from the start, a well half hour before Motta was sent off so the argument of "any ing team in the world would do what Inter did tonight if they had 10 men and 3 goals" is bull. |
Wow, a ing bus trip. It must have been exhausting sitting on a bus for a day. In the post-match interview tonight Mourinho revealed that Barca fans had been deliberately letting off fireworks outside their hotel until 4am, that the police had arrived and tried to arrest Samuel Eto'o for not paying taxes.
Inter were ready to break on Barca before Motta was sent off. You saw that when they had three men inside the Barca box and Eto'o took a bad touch and Inter won a corner. Defending a lead and counter-attacking in numbers when the opportunity arises is not anti-football.
| quote: | | They were extremely lucky Bojan's header didn't go in and that the referee disallowed a completely legitimate goal. Had Barca went through, you wouldn't be talking this bull about Inter's "brilliant strategy". |
I like how you've "quoted" a phrase I haven't used anywhere. Barca were very lucky that Motta was sent off after an obvious dive. If Busquets hadn't collapsed the whistle wouldn't even have gone. Motta used his arm to shield the ball without looking and his fingertips brush the guy's cheek. Ironically that pretty much decided Inter's fate for them - they couldn't bring the ball out and create space. A Barca player decided for them that it was brilliant defence that would get them through.
It seems some Barca fans, like many Arsenal fans, resort to this ludicrous righteous indignation when a team has the temerity to defend against them and succeeds. Barcelona have had more possession than their opponent in every single game this season. Inter simply gave them the ball and invited them to beat them, and thus exposed the one flaw Barcelona have: they can only play one way. They had almost 80% possession tonight but with Inter inside their own penalty area, Barca passed, passed, passed again and could do almost nothing.
It was the same against Chelsea in last season's semi-final. Barca were utterly outplayed in that game - Chelsea had several penalty shouts and several clear chances for Drogba. Barca had one shot on target in the whole game, and it went in. Barca were extremely lucky that night, and if one thing had gone against them nobody would be talking about Barca's "brilliant strategy" because they would see its flaw against the best opponents.
So rather than adopt this pathetic moral high ground about your team's brilliant, utterly correct style of football, maybe you should have some perspective and realise your team and your style has both flaws and good luck at key moments in the past. Mourinho is a tactical maestro and his team has multiple game-plans. Barcelona, for all their superiority-complex, don't, and they're not in the final. |
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| bas |
| The bus argument is my favorite one. Vern said the same thing :p |
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| sensorium |
| just caught a replay of the game. rather than focusing on a detailed explanation of inter's impressive defending i'll just say this: barca lost. :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: |
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| Ian |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Bull. Inter scored three goals at the San Siro - no other team has done that to Barca in 24 months. When you go a man down at the Nou Camp, do you play open football out of some idiotic notion of how the game "should" be played? No. Any ing team in the world (except Arsenal) would do what Inter did tonight if they had 10 men and 3 goals. The difference is that Inter are possibly the only team in the world who could pull it off.
Anyone chatting about how Inter played anti-football, or did nothing special is a biased culé or knows nothing about football. Inter's defensive play, from the goalkeeper up to Eto'o, was superb. |
I'm not a fan of italian football in general, the defensive & often boring stuff annoys me, as much as the shirt pulling, There was easily a foul on Zlatan early on that should've been a penalty but they don't seem to give those decisions in europe this season, Valencia had an even worse one missed by everyone incl the extra officials in the 1/4 with Atletico.
The way they defended was good yeah but there's just no focus on flair with that. Players like Milito, Schneider, Eto'o etc are all ones you want to see playing their usual games, The one thing that would've ed barca up as much as anything would've been an away goal and sometimes taking the risks to do that rewards you greatly. I'm unable to watch a full italian match these days usually, it just bores me and they don't have the talents playing there that they did 10-15 years ago when it was popular on channel 4 here. I remember loving a very exciting Parma side with a young cannavaro, sensini, buffon, chiesa, crespo, veron etc etc and they played some excellent stuff. Nowadays the entertaining stuff is generally in la liga. Inter's defender Samuel was shown up for what he is outside of slow boring football when he played in Madrid, he looked so ordinary for Real because his lack of pace was shown up week in week out for example. |
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