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Girls win right to play on boys' teams
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| Magnetonium |
WTF ... does this mean that boys can try out and play on girls teams, too???? What is with people nowadays, this is stupid. Yesterday the 1-minute idling by-law, today this, whats tomorrow? :disbelief
http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/759713
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Girls win right to play on boys' teams
High schools must let females try out for teams
The Hamilton Spectator
(Apr 28, 2010)
With few exceptions, girls who have wanted to play high school sports in Ontario over the years have had to do so on girls' teams, if one was available.
No more.
As of last week, girls now have carte blanche to play on boys' teams if they can make it. Even when a girls' team is available. :wtf:
The decision stems from the case of a Waterloo high school student who filed a human rights complaint recently after her demand to play on the boys' soccer team was denied. As the process rolled on, Ontario Federation of School Athletic Associations lawyers decided they were going to lose the fight, so the organization relented before legal precedent was set. A negotiated settlement allowed it to write its own policy rather than being force-fed the wording.
"Absolutely I see this as a good thing," says the girl's lawyer, Grace Vaccarelli. "I don't think a woman should be told she can't play on a team because of her gender."
While others will join her in seeing this as a tremendous victory for women, not everyone's celebrating.
OFSAA's executive director Doug Gellatly says the new policy -- which he was against -- raises a number of issues.
Start with the obvious question before it's even asked: No, Gellatly says, if a girl takes a boys' spot on a team, a boy can't try out for a girls' squad in return.
If he requests the chance and is denied, he'd almost certainly be wasting his time launching a human rights case of his own.
"My understanding is that's never been supported," Gellatly says.
Go ahead and debate the fairness and equity of that. But that's a red herring, really.
Gellatly says the bigger issues here are more subtle.
Those celebrating this as a great victory for women may be missing the point of how damaging it actually could be because of what it says about the value -- or more appropriately, the lack of value -- of girls' sports. If talented girls are arguing that to get real competition they have to play with the boys, what they're really saying is the female game is weak and not worth playing.
That isn't much of an endorsement. Nor is it fair.
Hamilton public board athletic convenor Chris Newman shares that concern, fearing it lessens the profile of girls' sports and removes role models who could help build up the games and athletes who aren't quite as talented.
Then there's the grenade in the foxhole.
A similar human rights case in Manitoba a couple years ago is said to be responsible for the folding of several girls' teams after a number of top athletes left their teams.
"I anticipate there will be more repercussions," says Manitoba High Schools Athletic Association executive director Morris Glimcher, who dealt with that situation.
"More teams will fold."
Vaccarelli dismisses all of it. She says she has seen no evidence of teams folding and she doesn't buy the idea that girls playing with the boys diminishes female sports.
To the contrary, she points to the women who've done well -- regardless where that happens -- as the role models who'll strengthen interest in female sports. Most of all, this new freedom allows talented girls to play at a higher level to better themselves.
While Hamilton's Catholic board athletics department said it has no comment on the change, Newman says the public board has allowed girls to try out for boys' teams a couple times before in the past 15 years, once for baseball and once for hockey.
But the issue hasn't come up recently. If it did, the boards technically wouldn't have to give the OK to the girls, Gellatly says. Each is an autonomous body that can develop its own rules, regardless of OFSAA regulations.
However, the first time a girl asks to play on a boys' team, is told she can't and files a complaint with the Human Rights Tribunal, the outcome is bound to be the same. |
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| Dior Homme |
Girls should also always pay full admission to clubs and events without line by pass.
We gotta be fair right? |
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| Jayx1 |
| see, now this is where i would cancel all sports programs until common sense was returned. |
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| jester |
| Haha awesome. I would love to see this. Especially in hockey. I wonder how many of them would be injured the first day hmm.... |
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| love_child |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dior Homme
Girls should also always pay full admission to clubs and events without line by pass.
We gotta be fair right? |
Actually, its better when girls get in for free because that means its less likely to be a sausage fest. |
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| Dior Homme |
| quote: | Originally posted by love_child
Actually, its better when girls get in for free because that means its less likely to be a sausage fest. |
you just killed it. |
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| Jayx1 |
im sure the next headline will be
"BOY CHARGED FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT AFTER BODY CHECKING FEMALE HOCKEY PLAYER" |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by jester
Haha awesome. I would love to see this. Especially in hockey. I wonder how many of them would be injured the first day hmm.... |
When I played hockey there were some pretty bad ass chicks we played against....don't be too sure they would be injured.
Hell, I played with a chick in lacrosse and she was probably the best player on the team and was the hardest hitter.
I hope there is a guy with enough balls to file a human rights case when they get denied a spot on the womens volleyball team. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| I still stand behind my earlier statement that man's first mistake was allowing women to vote. They should seriously just stay the home and learn to cook and clean again....the stupid bitches want it all and they are just too stupid to realize how good they actually had it.... now I'm pissed...I'm going home and beating my wife right now...stupid bitches |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
When I played hockey there were some pretty bad ass chicks we played against....don't be too sure they would be injured.
Hell, I played with a chick in lacrosse and she was probably the best player on the team and was the hardest hitter.
I hope there is a guy with enough balls to file a human rights case when they get denied a spot on the womens volleyball team. |
white males dont have a hope in hell at the human rights board |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
white males dont have a hope in hell at the human rights board |
well...a tall black man wanting to play womens volleyball might be a little scary. |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I still stand behind my earlier statement that man's first mistake was allowing women to vote. They should seriously just stay the home and learn to cook and clean again....the stupid bitches want it all and they are just too stupid to realize how good they actually had it.... now I'm pissed...I'm going home and beating my wife right now...stupid bitches |
First I'd like to say that I don't condone violence against women in the least...
Second I'd like to say...
BAAAHAHAHAHHAA |
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