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Government bungling - the results years later Pitbulls and Homeless shelter (pg. 2)
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| gilboman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
you are being sarcastic i hope |
no i'm not.
who said the pitbull ban was supposed to reduce dog bites?
you might as well say the pitbull ban didnt stimulate the economy..lol
you are just making illogical relationships between two different things |
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| MarkT |
the only conclusion that can be drawn from looking at the "total number of reported dog bites" year over year is that more or less dog bites were reported between those years.
period.
it simply not logical to conclude anything further at all! |
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| gimmebeatz |
| banning a breed is complete bull. there is no such thing as a dog thats trained to fight or attack from birth. a golden retriever could attack a person or child just as much as a pitbull if its raised improperly. its all how its raised by the owners. pitbulls are some of the most loyal and loving family dogs there are. my mother who was completely against them at first would never have another dog now aside from a pitbull after the one we have now. i think its a complete cop-out to punish a breed instead of going after whos truly responsible...the irresponsible owner. |
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| mute79 |
LOL! I knew it: http://www.torontosun.com/news/toro...8/13754736.html
Only the The Sun could churn out such bull and call it journalism. They're a self-labeled neo-con mouthpiece, and have proven that yet again by openly endorsing Rob Ford for mayor.
This article is nothing more than right-wing propaganda machine hard at work. |
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| Jennifer_P_ |
The Pit Bull article doesn't prove any Government blunders - the number of bites - without stating severity or total dog population is pretty-useless info.
And I support the Pit Bull ban - I'm sorry pit bull lovers; I know you are responsible dog owners.... but the problem is, this breed tends to attract irresponsible dog owners. A cute little fuzzball of a dog might be more likely to bite me but if a pitbull bites me - there's gonna be trouble. I admit, I'm a bit shakey around dogs.... I'm definitely a cat-type-o-girl.
I'm an animal lover and sympathize with those who's favourite breed has been banned, but I don't want to run into one while walking down the street... Selfish or not - I am glad for the ban. |
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| gilboman |
| quote: | Originally posted by gimmebeatz
banning a breed is complete bull. there is no such thing as a dog thats trained to fight or attack from birth. a golden retriever could attack a person or child just as much as a pitbull if its raised improperly. its all how its raised by the owners. pitbulls are some of the most loyal and loving family dogs there are. my mother who was completely against them at first would never have another dog now aside from a pitbull after the one we have now. i think its a complete cop-out to punish a breed instead of going after whos truly responsible...the irresponsible owner. |
are you serious? There are breeds that are a lot more aggressive and violent. that's a fact, pitbulls are one of those breeds..also a fact.
the whole responsible owner etc.. has no part in it at all. Fact is, pitbulls are more dangerious, have a higher predisposition for violence regardless of owner behaviour.
And how is a pitbull ban punishing the breed????? I hope you know what the ban means, it doesn't mean we go out and slaughter all the pitbulls;) |
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| gimmebeatz |
| quote: | Originally posted by gilboman
the whole responsible owner etc.. has no part in it at all. |
that is the most obsurd and untrue statement ive ever heard. how a dog is brought up has more to do with it than anything in regards to the breed. there is no such thing as dog that is born vicious and mean, no matter what breed it is unless the breeder was completely uninformed and was purposely inbreeding dogs from the same family. thats where you get huge behavioral and temperament issues along with other possible defects. |
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| Jennifer_P_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by gimmebeatz
that is the most obsurd and untrue statement ive ever heard. how a dog is brought up has more to do with it than anything in regards to the breed. there is no such thing as dog that is born vicious and mean, no matter what breed it is unless the breeder was completely uninformed and was purposely inbreeding dogs from the same family. thats where you get huge behavioral and temperament issues along with other possible defects. |
so the only alternative would be stringent monitoring of pitbull owners to ensure that they are bringing up their dogs with the highest level of skill so the vicious attacks can be stopped.
... How well would that go over? Sorry bud - you may be the bestest, most-responsible dog owner ever but your neighbor might be a ty Daddy to a Doggy ~ the only effective soloution is to ban the breed.
(and ps - one of my best friends had two pitbulls - she's a very responsible dog owner and they were very-well behaved dogs... as they aged their behavior changed, and guess what? Their behavior worsened to the point where her only option was to put them down. Sorry - pit bulls are simply too volatile) |
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| gimmebeatz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jennifer_P_
so the only alternative would be stringent monitoring of pitbull owners to ensure that they are bringing up their dogs with the highest level of skill so the vicious attacks can be stopped.
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i think thats a great potential solution. i think for anyone wanting to own a potentially "vicious" breed of dog should have to go through an extremely thorough background check with references as well as making a certain level of obedience school be mandatory.
my friends aunt just adopted a blind golden retriever and they interviewed her entire family for hours, 5 personal references, as well as bringing the blind puppy over to see how her other dogs reacted to the new puppy in their territory.
personally this whole situation doesnt even pertain to me as i live in the US, but i just think the whole idea of banning a breed resolves nothing. |
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| gilboman |
| quote: | Originally posted by gimmebeatz
that is the most obsurd and untrue statement ive ever heard. how a dog is brought up has more to do with it than anything in regards to the breed. there is no such thing as dog that is born vicious and mean, no matter what breed it is unless the breeder was completely uninformed and was purposely inbreeding dogs from the same family. thats where you get huge behavioral and temperament issues along with other possible defects. |
You are taking it out of context, all things being equal (as in equal owner), a pitbull is much more dangerous than other dogs. That is the point.
There is no such thing as a dog is born vicious and mean for sure, but pitbulls have a much higher predisposition of that. That has never been doubted. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mute79
LOL! I knew it: http://www.torontosun.com/news/toro...8/13754736.html
Only the The Sun could churn out such bull and call it journalism. They're a self-labeled neo-con mouthpiece, and have proven that yet again by openly endorsing Rob Ford for mayor.
This article is nothing more than right-wing propaganda machine hard at work. |
so i guess the star, the globe and mail and ctv are bull too because they all reported the exact same thing about dog bites? |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by gilboman
no i'm not.
who said the pitbull ban was supposed to reduce dog bites?
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i believe their names are michael bryant and dalton mcguinty.
And what these articles just did was call them out on their bull. |
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