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[NEW TRACK!] Arcadia - The 4th Dimension! (Uplifting Track Check It Out) THANKS!!!
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Arcadia
The 4th Dimension by Arcadia_Trance

Hey everyone i just finished my third track, this time i used Ableton Live 8. So im still new to live so its a bit chopped still but nevermind the minor details.

Im just looking for some feed back.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND SUPPORTING ME!!! :D
EddieZilker
The disappearing kick? At first, your kick had too much presence in the mix. Now it has shrunk. How did you achieve this? Why has it gone away? It has disappeared, almost, but it gave it's presence to the high-hats and synths that are way too high and have too much reverb on them.

I've noticed the pattern, again:

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I'm beginning to notice a trend, here: lots of high frequencies and time based effects, conveying a simple melody line made up of simple diads and doomed forever to repeat every four to sixteen measures, while riding a shrill chord cluster.
Arcadia
ha simple? you wish, lol :p

but what exactly are you asking me? or telling me.

and please, no riddles, or old world talk.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Arcadia
ha simple? you wish, lol :p

but what exactly are you asking me? or telling me.

and please, no riddles, or old world talk.


It has the same problems potato chip's track has. You young people come in here, attempting to make uplifting trance when all you do is make up a somewhat complex loop, set it to repeat, and add and remove tracks as you see fit to give the illusion that the song is progressing. Unfortunately, that's all it is.

Don't get me wrong. I use loops all the time, but I also have at least one track which rarely if ever repeats completely and make sure, usually, that every track I've got going has at least two different changes as the track evolves.

The other problem is that it sounds shrill - very shrill. It's got way too much treble and not enough bass or mid-range. Which is great if you're audience suffers from profound hearing loss but not so good for your actual target audience who can hear, quite well, quiet frequencies above 20,000 Hz.

You're likely suffering from Mix Ear, otherwise known as ear fatigue. What happens is that you tire out the poor little filaments that are responsible for hearing in their designated frequencies. As they get tired, they start shutting down. Consequently, you're hearing a mix which is beginning to sound muffled and, somewhat automatically, reach to turn up the treble. As you do this, the little filaments begin getting more tired, your mix starts sounding muddy, and you turn up the treble, again.

Really, what you should have done was turned off the music button for a while and gone and read a book. You should have left it alone for a day or so and then come back to it to listen to it in all of its unrepentant shrillness. Like an unwelcome mother in law, you'd find the duct-tape necessary to quiet the banshee like timbres issuing from your studio monitors.
Arcadia
well like i stated early, that was my first track i did in ableton, its a very complex program and i know i probably should have taken more time... but im still learning alright, there is only room for improvement. Right?

idk i think i hold potential, but i just need to train and tune my fingers and ears i guess, right?
Arcadia
whats your theory on going about writing a track?
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Arcadia
idk i think i hold potential...


Of course you do. I'm just bustin' your chops. In part because you come off like a cocky little punk, but don't let that stop you from making music ;) Really, you just need experience.

I've been thinking about an answer to your second question, for quite some time, before you asked it. There are so many ways to do music that there is no quick answer, let alone a concise way to describe any number of approaches I employ.

Click on that thread by Lews that just popped up, here. That is currently my all-time favorite song mix.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...6&forumid=74&s=

Here it is. Now THIS - this is a song.

If you want to know how my criticism is informed, click on my sig. There's almost all of the music I've made in the past three years.
Arcadia
all right yeah thanks i appriciate it, and i do need experience and that comes with time, i learn with each minute i spend working on a song. and ill check that stuff out. :)
sako487
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Originally posted by Arcadia
whats your theory on going about writing a track?


ton of automation keeps it interesting

About the song, the highhats are stabbing me in the heart

Lower the volume and put a high pass on it
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