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Tea Party Republican Terrorists Plant Bomb in NYC (pg. 5)
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| Lilith |
| Oh well, I always figured old whiteys in 4WD's would contribute to the destruction of civilisation in some form or another. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
What, grow up and close my mind to all possibilities, believing only the status quo?
But you're right, it couldn't possibly be the government's doing, as they're just looking out for the well being of average blokes like you and me, and not attempting to make the citizenry paranoid of each other in any way...
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yeah, that substantiates your paranoia about the government planting those home made bombs :stongue:
your problem is you don't understand how to do rational inquiry. you start with the evidence and see where it leads, you dont create a hypothesis and try to support it with the evidence. well, unless youre a conspiracy theorist of course! |
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| The17sss |
Ha! Nou's dream of a pasty white redneck from Mississippi destroying peoples' lives has been shattered. :p |
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| SuspicionVandit |
Where was Rube Goldberg?
awfully suspicious |
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| iTranscendence |
Shame on you Joss, that's no better than all the demonization that went on for 8 years against any enemies of the Neocons.
inb4 resident nut rider. |
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| leph555 |
Damn, I was hoping it was this guy
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| PivotTechno |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
your problem is you don't understand how to do rational inquiry. you start with the evidence and see where it leads, you dont create a hypothesis and try to support it with the evidence. well, unless youre a conspiracy theorist of course! |
Rational inquiry tells me that there is a longstanding precedent of governments out-and-out lying to their citizenry in order to exercise effective control over the population and to further their own narrow interests.
You see paranoia, I see a healthy level of warranted skepticism.
But hey, the impartial New York Times once reported that the "removal" of 3,000,000 Jews from Poland was seen as a benefit. Beneficial to good old American companies like IBM.
But that isn't how governments act in this day and age, like adversaries in public but shaking hands behind closed doors - is it? Everyone's working together toward the greater good, right? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
Rational inquiry tells me that there is a longstanding precedent of governments out-and-out lying to their citizenry in order to exercise effective control over the population and to further their own narrow interests.....
But that isn't how governments act in this day and age, like adversaries in public but shaking hands behind closed doors - is it? Everyone's working together toward the greater good, right? |
I find it interesting tha you're the same guy screaming that the government should pass legislation to prohibit the use of automobiles and argue that they should have jurisdiction over all manner of social policy; however, you have so little confidence in those elected to represent our interests that you actually believe that they are "out-and-out lying... to further their own narrow interests." You really can't have it both ways; either they are trustworthy therefore we should allow them more control over us, or they are not so we should allow them as little control as possible. You have to choose, it cannot be both. |
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| PivotTechno |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I find it interesting tha you're the same guy screaming that the government should pass legislation to prohibit the use of automobiles and argue that they should have jurisdiction over all manner of social policy; however, you have so little confidence in those elected to represent our interests that you actually believe that they are "out-and-out lying... to further their own narrow interests." You really can't have it both ways; either they are trustworthy therefore we should allow them more control over us, or they are not so we should allow them as little control as possible. You have to choose, it cannot be both. |
Oh, but it can. The government that would regulate the use of motorised vehicles in the interest of environmental preservation is not the same as the one that's currently in place, in any country.
Elections are a joke in their current form - intentional government inactivity (show me real progress, please) has led to ridiculous levels of voter apathy, ensuring that the usual small contingent keeps their interests firmly at the forefront.
Our technology truly makes us a global community. But these technologies, and the companies that manufacture and utilise them, have been allowed to operate relatively unchecked pretty much since the advent of the industrial era, dictating policy to suit their needs as they go. Global community demands truly global policy that takes all of humanity and the planet into equal account - a world regulatory body that would hold that notion up to scrutiny with every consideration is the government that I'm referring to.
Until such a government comes into existence, people will continue to be seen as worth only $6 a week in return for endless backbreaking labour, and it will be perfectly acceptable for someone who meets and gladhands and sits in big, comfy chairs, greenlighting paperwork for a few hours a day, to make millions upon millions of times more in the same period of time. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Ha! Nou's dream of a pasty white redneck from Mississippi destroying peoples' lives has been shattered. :p |
Not really. This was obvious spin. Liberals can do it too. :) |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
Oh, but it can. The government that would regulate the use of motorised vehicles in the interest of environmental preservation is not the same as the one that's currently in place, in any country.
Elections are a joke in their current form - intentional government inactivity (show me real progress, please) has led to ridiculous levels of voter apathy, ensuring that the usual small contingent keeps their interests firmly at the forefront.
Our technology truly makes us a global community. But these technologies, and the companies that manufacture and utilise them, have been allowed to operate relatively unchecked pretty much since the advent of the industrial era, dictating policy to suit their needs as they go. Global community demands truly global policy that takes all of humanity and the planet into equal account - a world regulatory body that would hold that notion up to scrutiny with every consideration is the government that I'm referring to.
Until such a government comes into existence, people will continue to be seen as worth only $6 a week in return for endless backbreaking labour, and it will be perfectly acceptable for someone who meets and gladhands and sits in big, comfy chairs, greenlighting paperwork for a few hours a day, to make millions upon millions of times more in the same period of time. |
Democracy doesn't work. |
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