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Couple of dumb but important questions.....
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| Stephen Wiley |
Always love asking these....
First, how would YOU place these processes in order?
-Mono'ing a stereo track*
-Using a doubler to basically layer the track*
-Parallel Compression*
-EQ
-Delay
-Reverb
-Further compression/saturation/special fx editing
-EQ
I personally do them as described above. I use sends for the ones that have a * by them. Curious if anyone else does or would do it a different way and why.
Second, what is the least CPU intensive way to make an internal stereo source (let's say a VST playing a stereo bass line) play in mono? I personally use a plug in, but would double the track and panning one left and one right be easier on the CPU? Is there a certain plug in that is super low on CPU usage and just for this process, like a "golden standard"? I use Ableton Live 8 FWIW. |
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| XDR |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
Always love asking these....
First, how would YOU place these processes in order?
-Mono'ing a stereo track*
-Using a doubler to basically layer the track*
-Parallel Compression*
-EQ
-Delay
-Reverb
-Further compression/saturation/special fx editing
-EQ
I personally do them as described above. I use sends for the ones that have a * by them. Curious if anyone else does or would do it a different way and why. |
The only thing I'm used to doing is delay before reverb but there's no reason why that can't be the other way around if you should want it to be. EQ and compression I apply wherever in the chain I see fit and as much as I find needed. There's no limit to what you can do here and no correct order. Each combination and order has different effects and they could all be useful to you. Depends entirely on what you want to do with the sound.
| quote: | Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
Second, what is the least CPU intensive way to make an internal stereo source (let's say a VST playing a stereo bass line) play in mono? I personally use a plug in, but would double the track and panning one left and one right be easier on the CPU? Is there a certain plug in that is super low on CPU usage and just for this process, like a "golden standard"? I use Ableton Live 8 FWIW. |
Why would you use a send to change a stereo track to mono?
Just use the Utility from Ableton on the track itself and set it's Width to 0% or set it to play only the left or right channel (whatever sounds best to you).
Doubling could be done in the same track as well, if you group the utility and make a new chain in that group with another utility for the other channel (so you have left and right in seperate chains). You can then apply different processing to each chain, all without ever making more than one audio/midi track for your source.
Sending the signal to a new track might still be more clarifying and easy for when you want to render the tracks to audio, I'm just pointing out the possibilities. |
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| cammaxwell |
| quote: | Originally posted by XDR
Why would you use a send to change a stereo track to mono?
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This doesn't make any sense to me either? |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
Second, what is the least CPU intensive way to make an internal stereo source (let's say a VST playing a stereo bass line) play in mono? I personally use a plug in, but would double the track and panning one left and one right be easier on the CPU? Is there a certain plug in that is super low on CPU usage and just for this process, like a "golden standard"? I use Ableton Live 8 FWIW. |
Yeah its called the Utility plugin |
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| Rodri Santos |
| I personally place compressor>EQ>Reverb>Delay but i'm sure there are a lot of things that work, filters and FX can't be at the beginning i think it's the only rule to follow on this. |
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| EddieZilker |
I'd typically use your configuration but will make different adjustments to suit my laziness. I almost never use two EQ's in the same track but I might use a filter over an already EQ'ed track - either a kick or a bass.
EDIT: Second question. I'll listen in stereo then bounce one layer (usually a non-textured sine-bass) down to mono but keep one (multi-osc saw) in stereo. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
I usually go: (order first by number 1, same # denotes random order, all instruments are optional)
1-Equalizer
1-Filter
2-Chorus
2-Flanger
2-Phaser
2-Distortion
2-Vocoder
2-Exciter
3-Delay
4-Reverb
5-Compressor
6-Limiter
6-Soft Clipper
Don't ask why thats just the way I use my fx. |
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| Storyteller |
Hey Robby,
In the end it doesn't matter what you do as long as it sounds the way you want it to. However, I'd recommend you to put the compressor somewhere at the beginning of the chain. Before or after the filter/eq. This gives you more control to sculpt the initial sound without compressing the delay/reverb as well. This way you have a bit more dynamic space to work with which would likely result in a better/more clear definition of the sounds used. Make them stand out a bit more and such.
Compressing those effects means the initial sound and the effects will be closer in terms of dynamic range which makes them harder to distinguish from the original sound. Thus it most likely clutters the mix up a bit. If that's what you're looking for it's ok but in standard cases I would advise like said in the above paragraph.
Again, in the end the sound is all that matters though :). |
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| Fledz |
| EQ after compression is one of the main ones I read about all the time. |
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| 19503 |
| yeah eq after compression, i always did opposite but after altering this bad habit things sounded better. |
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| chick |
| quote: | Originally posted by 19503
yeah eq after compression, i always did opposite but after altering this bad habit things sounded better. |
only if you boost.
if you cut then put it before compression. |
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| chick |
| and don't ask me why because i forgot but my friend learnt this method at school.. |
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