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Ableton Envelope Delay?
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| kadomony |
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1734626/remix.mp3
As you can see/hear, I've had to adjust the ON/OFF envelope for the EQ so it falls 1/16th after the 1st beat of the 9th bar. If I have it switch right on the 1st beat, it sounds like it switches on slightly before the 1st beat. It's still a little off now, but sounds cool imo, so I'm leavin it.
What is causing this? Audio sample delay? Something else inherent in Ableton?
How would I rectify this so I don't have to adjust the envelope position every time? |
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| Lolo |
delay compensation that is turned off into the options?
Cracked Ableton Live?
Wrong ASIO driver?
A pesky and/or cracked plug-in that screws your global PDC?
Be a little bit more specific about what you're using and someone will be able to tell you. |
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| kadomony |
Ableton 8 with Zebra2 for the part in the clip.
I have the built-in EQ3 bandpass EQ set on the Master. Could that be the problem since delay compensation is applied to the master channel, possibly throwing off the timing of the on/off envelope?
My driver error compensation is set at 0ms. I've tried adjusting it, but the EQ timing is still off. |
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| evo8 |
| I think ive had problems with this before, not sure what causes it tho :conf: |
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| Fledz |
The EQ3 is so that could be the start of your problem :p
Nice track though, I want to hear the rest :gsmile: |
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| kadomony |
It seems like envelopes on the channels are timed correctly, but anything that is time based on the master is off a bit.
I'd hate to have to bus everything just to add a filter :\ |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kadomony
It seems like envelopes on the channels are timed correctly, but anything that is time based on the master is off a bit.
I'd hate to have to bus everything just to add a filter :\ |
might be worth contacting Ableton support and see if they are aware of the problem, doesnt sound right |
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| kadomony |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
might be worth contacting Ableton support and see if they are aware of the problem, doesnt sound right |
will do, i'll let you know how it goes! |
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| evo8 |
| looks like there may be something going on alright - have a read of this link |
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| kadomony |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
looks like there may be something going on alright - have a read of this link |
ah! good find, thanks man.
for anyone else with this issue, main point of the ableton thread is:
the offtiming is caused by the delay compensation, which does not FULLY compensate for 3rd party FX placed before ableton's effects.
a semi-fix is to set your "plug-in buffer size" as low as possible. (which i just confirmed DOES work!)
it's something they're looking into, apparently.
thanks again evo8! |
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