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Becoming a beatport artist
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| oldspice891 |
sup guys, I got some questions that I would appreciate some input for.
I've made a few tracks that I would like to upload to beatport. they have been spun at raves and my friends say that I should upload them.
1)So what do I have to do to become a beatport artist? I already have an account, but thats for viewing and purchasing tracks. Is it like myspace where I have to make an artist account?
2) Also, someone else already has my producer name and has a few tracks on beatport already. He has like 1 original mix and a few other colab tracks, but he's in a completely different genre and our styles are wayy different. I already have a myspace and logos being made, and I really like my name so I don't want to change it. Can I just make an account with the same name, and people would just have to know to buy my tracks, or will I have to modify my name somehow so mine stands out?
For instance, if this guys name is Producer, and I'm Producer, do I have to make my name Pr0ducer so it registers?
Thanks for the help
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| EddieZilker |
You will need
1 - 10' ladder
1 - 1.5" wide 12' pole with pointed end
2 - bags of cement
1 - shovel
2 - bottles of Astroglide
1 - 3' by 3' area of ground (digging permission optional)
Go get these things and then I'll instruct you further. |
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| Kevy Kev |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
You will need
1 - 10' ladder
1 - 1.5" wide 12' pole with pointed end
2 - bags of cement
1 - shovel
2 - bottles of Astroglide
1 - 3' by 3' area of ground (digging permission optional)
Go get these things and then I'll instruct you further. |
Do exactly as he says! |
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| johncannons1 |
hahaha
other than the instructions above.. as that is PROBs the easiest way to get on there..
best bet is to find a label to submit too that uses beatport as a selling tool..
usually most labels on their website have like graphics of shops the use to sell there music...
usually trackitdown audiojelly itunes beatport etc.
i dont believe that you can directly upload your own music unless you had a label that beatport recognises....
but before you say i wanna set up my own label... i think they have a rule where you need to sell a certain amount etc to stay on there..
so find a label that you like that uses beatport... submit and it should be all good. about the name thing that doesnt matter..
my mate ran into the same problem someone released tracks under the same name... funny thing is they were better than his hahaha.. |
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| floyd741 |
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
I've made a few tracks that I would like to upload to beatport.
Is it like myspace where I have to make an artist account?
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LOL, if it were that easy Beatport would be filled with way more than it already is.
I remember reading somewhere that to be sold on Beatport you have to be signed to a label that has a distribution relationship with them (which makes perfect sense). So before you go thinking about selling your music, get signed to a label (that's partnered with bp if that's what you want). |
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| EddieZilker |
| Audiojelly.com and digital-tunes.net both allow artist owned labels to sell at their stores, on-line. Audiojelly requires a fee and digital-tunes is picky about what they sell. I'm not sure if Audiojelly exercises the product control that Digital-Tunes does or not, but they're both worth looking into if you want to try and get it to market, yourself. |
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| oldspice891 |
Ok I see I didn't know I had to be signed. Now, could I create my own label, then contact them saying I have a label and so and so under it, then have them upload it. I mean, I have friends that produce tracks too, so I could put them under mine.
EDIT: Nvm, I read johncannons1 post.
Johncannons1, do you KNOW for sure that certain amount you need to sell to stay on?
So basically, I gotta submit my tracks to a label that is recognized by beatport? So, I would have to just research the labels, write down their names, and then submit my tracks to them, in efforts to get signed, just like it's always been...I was hoping to avoid it.
Let's say Laidback Luke is making a track. Honestly, through what media outlets is his label promoting them? What does his label actually do for him, if anything? He makes the track, sends it to them, maybe they have a dude that masters it, then they put it on the site, and get a cut of his profits. Do they make some flyers and maybe post on some websites? Honestly, what are they really gonna do for the cut that they take. Can someone enlighten me on this, maybe even people who are signed?. EDM labels just seem like BS to me.
For pop music for like Rihanna and Lady Gaga, sure they have access to retail outlets, but EDM I donno. |
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| DJ_Rafnel |
If your trolling this is golden but if not, then here is some advice ive learned over the years through my own personal mistakes.
1. Don't rush into things, take your time.
2. Send some stuff out to some semi-big DJs/Producers. Don't bother with Armin or Tiesto, you won't hear back, the amount of promos they get is insane. Try some artists who have some good tracks out but arn't touring constantly or on top of the world. Try to stay within your sound too. They can provide great feedback and this will help a lot.
3. Start slow with labels, pick which labels you want to send to carefully, and be professional about it.
IE: Don't say... "Hey i'm ___insert name here___ I want to be signed so i can get on beatport." or... "My stuff is amazing, you should sign me."
Try something more like: "Dear Label, my name is ___Insert name___ I've been following your label for a while and think some of my tracks would be up your ally and would love to be a part of the team. Here are my 2 latest tracks: ____insert good 320kbps DIRECT LINK's here___
Provide good contact details and maybe a list of some support you have, or a following if you have one.
Those are the main things that i learned at first. Make sure your totally ready for submitting to a label before you do. I wish i had done that from the start and saved the disapointment.
Just keep at it, have fun at what you do, and good luck bro! |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
Ok I see I didn't know I had to be signed. Now, could I create my own label, then contact them saying I have a label and so and so under it, then have them upload it. I mean, I have friends that produce tracks too, so I could put them under mine.
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Beatport only deals with distributors. You have to pay those distributors to get your music on all of these sites, including Beatport. In addition, because of the dearth of tiny labels that abound nowadays, you cant just "sign up". You are going to need a way to prove that you can reasonable meet their sales quotas. That means a business plan and some sort of established track record. This is in an effort to weed out the amount of garbage on Beatport and ensure that they only distribute quality music that is going to sell.
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
Johncannons1, do you KNOW for sure that certain amount you need to sell to stay on?
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Yes, Beatport recently dropped a bunch of labels that were not meeting monthly quotas for sales. Again, this is to weed out the amount of garbage on the site.
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
So basically, I gotta submit my tracks to a label that is recognized by beatport?
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Yep.
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
So, I would have to just research the labels, write down their names, and then submit my tracks to them, in efforts to get signed, just like it's always been...
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Pretty much. Artists sign tracks to the label, the label sends them to the distributors, the distributors get them on sites like Beatport. Just like any brick-and-mortar retail store.
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
I was hoping to avoid it.
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There are tons of ways to sell your music without being a part of a label, you just gotta find a way to rise above the thousand other labels that have the same idea. So far, very few have been successful going this route which is why most major artists in this music sign to labels. If your music is good, you can get it signed, and its easier than trying to run your own label which is a LOT of work.
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
Let's say Laidback Luke is making a track. Honestly, through what media outlets is his label promoting them?
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Artists of his caliber sell music simply by name recognition alone. In addition, labels provide a variety of traditional services for promotion, club nights, events and other types of promotional vehicles. When you are on that level, the artist promotes the label just as much as the label promotes the artist.
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
What does his label actually do for him, if anything?
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Explained above.
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
He makes the track, sends it to them, maybe they have a dude that masters it, then they put it on the site, and get a cut of his profits.
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There is no profit in selling tracks anymore, If you want to make money, you have to play live, either DJing or Live PA. The label gets a good chunk of the money, after Beatport takes their cut. The advantage is that Beatport is (arguably) the leader in EDM music. It is the iTunes of dance, so being on there means that you have the biggest chance of people finding and buying your music because so many people shop there.
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
Do they make some flyers and maybe post on some websites? Honestly, what are they really gonna do for the cut that they take. Can someone enlighten me on this, maybe even people who are signed?. EDM labels just seem like BS to me.
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Not really. Being on a quality label lends a certain legitimacy to your music that cannot be achieved on your own typically unless you are already an established artist. Good labels get your music in the hands of prominent DJ's (promos) who then play your music out, chart your tracks, create a buzz and ultimately drive sales. Many labels also participate in viral marketing using social media sites to promote new music.
With so many small labels putting out tons of junk every week, it is more important than ever to try to get on a quality label because it means that you'll get more ears on your music simply by virtue of being on a label that people know about, that they like and they know as a label that releases quality music. Its the #1 way to rise above the noise.
| quote: | Originally posted by oldspice891
For pop music for like Rihanna and Lady Gaga, sure they have access to retail outlets, but EDM I donno. |
The EDM market has very few similarities to the pop market. Its almost like comparing apples and oranges. I would hesitate before using those as a gauge. Having access to retail outlets is not the same advantage it used to be because so many people buy their music in digital format now. For everything other than EDM, iTunes is the distribution point of choice for sales. In some ways this helps you because it levels the playing field a bit, but in some ways it hurts you because there is so much more garbage out there and instead of having a distributor filter through it for the consumer, the consumer has to do it on their own now. |
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| Stealth |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
The advantage is that Beatport is (arguably) the leader in EDM music. It is the iTunes of dance, so being on there means that you have the biggest chance of people finding and buying your music because so many people shop there.
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Arguably? I wonder, how could anyone argue otherwise? Beatport (like or it not) has a straight up monopoly on the EDM record industry... |
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| kitphillips |
Laidback luke probably has his own label and uses his name to promote it rather than the other way around.
The current dance music business model is quite good because there are plenty of small boutique labels which put out a very cohesive and reliable sound.
If you had everyone releasing their own stuff, it would get harder to know what was good and harder to find groups of related artists. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stealth
Arguably? I wonder, how could anyone argue otherwise? Beatport (like or it not) has a straight up monopoly on the EDM record industry... |
Most popular? Yes.
Monopoly? No. |
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