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Not knowing how to make music.
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| DJBrixX |
Hiya everyone. Firstly, excuse the awful screenname, I joined this website quite a while ago.
I've been working very hard with production for the last couple of years, and have been improving in mostly fields of synthesis and mixing. I can put together all the right instruments, in all the right ways, and I've had this objectively verified on a number of occasions.
My biggest struggle though. I really don't know how to make music. I've worked hard to try and find how to create appropriate melodies, and working padlines. But they all become overcomplicated, and essentially, do not sound good. My structure is also lacking. I fail to find interesting developments past the basic intro, build up, verse, break down, build up, chorus, verse, break, build, chorus, break, outro.
I would love some help on this, whether it's just some links to important articles that are good to study, or whether it's advice on developing my style melodically and structurally with new techniques.
I do my bit on 'just practicing'. I work hard practicing but ultimately, I'm finding no pleasure in creating music anymore, given that I really am not creating anything past interesting sounds. |
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| Mad for Brad |
| then stop. Pretty simple matter. |
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| DJBrixX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
then stop. Pretty simple matter. |
I probably didn't explain myself well enough. I absolutely love making music.
I just only enjoy it when I am creating progressive, flowing tracks, of which I seem to be unable to do at this point in time. Which is why I came for advice in the first place. |
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| EddieZilker |
Go here: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=48&s=
M4B was beaten for every mistake by his alcoholic piano teacher and only knows a deep and abiding hatred for music in all forms. But seriously, just click on the link and then the links that follow. |
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| DJBrixX |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Go here: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=48&s=
M4B was beaten for every mistake by his alcoholic piano teacher and only knows a deep and abiding hatred for music in all forms. But seriously, just click on the link and then the links that follow. |
Yeah he does seem like a bit of a loser. :P
Thanks, I'll take a look through. I've looked before, but from what I remembered, it simply wasn't specific enough, and I wasn't *actually* able to gain much from it in terms of re-traceable knowledge.
I'm looking more for information I can retain so that I come to think in the future "Okay, I'll do this, to change that i'll then do what I learned earlier. Okay. I know what to do now, I learnt it ages ago."
At the moment it's "Okay. What if I change this? No. Okay what if I change this.. Yes. Okay. Pads.. How the hell do I use pads. Erm. *closes DAW*" |
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| owien |
try picking on one or two areas at one time or to keep things fresh just make tracks that sounds good to you.
dont be to hard on yourself and go with the flow;) |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by owien
try picking on one or two areas at one time or to keep things fresh just make tracks that sounds good to you.
dont be to hard on yourself and go with the flow;) |
+1. Music production can be very overwhelming, particularly when you consider that you are trying to master both the musical aspect (e.g., melody, harmony, dynamics, arrangement) and the technical aspect (mixing/mastering). Keep it simple and focused and try to master everything one step at a time. So, step back a bit and try to re-familiarize yourself with the fundamentals. This will help you in two ways: 1) it will reinforce the basics, and 2) it will help you figure out where your roadblocks are.
For example, find a basic music theory tutorial online and start reading through it. Some of the first few sections may seem too basic to you, depending on your knowledge, but you'll get through those quickly. Eventually, you will start to hit new information - take the time to soak it up and really understand it, then think about how it could apply to your melodies, chord progressions, etc. That's just one example and one way of tackling it, the same approach could apply to sound design, mixing, etc.
Also, avoid falling into the "why don't my songs sound pro?" trap. That will just frustrate you and make your burden seem even greater. Your songs probably aren't going to sound "pro" for quite some time. Just remember that "pros" have been doing it for a LOT longer than you have and have had to go through the same learning process. So, just stay focused and have a good time doing it! |
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| DJBrixX |
I suppose it's best I do a link to some of my work.
http://www.theaudioportal.com/portal/listen/22
This is something I'm currently working on. It's a remix of the track Let You Know by Filo and Peri. I think it sounds alright, but honestly my overall production is flawed.
(No loops or presets or all that jazz, all my own content except for the obvious vocals.)
However from here on in, it's just failing. :P
I suppose I'll put together something without caring for the technical aspect, and see how it turns out. :) |
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| cryophonik |
Holy $***. I wasn't expecting that. Nice work. But, it's not possible to say anything about the structure because the clip is too short, so a longer clip would be useful.
Also, when you say...
| quote: | | ...I'm finding no pleasure in creating music anymore, given that I really am not creating anything past interesting sounds |
...are you referring to remixes, originals, or both? I'm not much of a remixer, but it seems to me that you might get more satisfaction out of doing something completely original (IF that's the case here). I don't know - just a thought. |
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| owien |
well going by the clip you posted im wondering why you made this post.
i think you may have lost faith in your work or just set the bar to high.
either way keep doing what you're doing |
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| KilldaDJ |
| try to make everything sound like gouryella. |
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| Mad for Brad |
you are obviously burnt out.
stop. Do something else. Unless you have a project due at a certain time, forcing creativity will make your hair grey. |
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