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More Firewire ports for MAC PRO
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| Mad for Brad |
| Was wondering if you could get a pci express card with a firewire port and whether it would be on the same bus as the stock firewire ports. My backup system runs firewire 800 and it kills the bandwidth to the point that audio doesn't work. It isn't the biggest problem in that I back up at night when I'm not doing work but I was wondering if there is a common solution. |
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| DJ RANN |
| Yes, it will give you more ports and will not be on the same bus. You *might* see some bottlencking and audio issues due to the system freaking out as a whole with extreme data transfer like that but not like you would if it were all on the same bus. |
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| kitphillips |
You know, its ok to troll if your a smart troll. But you're a dumb troll. And then you go asking dumb questions. So how are you better than Robby Rox?
The answer to your question is that, while installing a FW 800 card in your expresscard slot will reduce the strain on your firewire buss, it won't do anything for the strain occuring on your harddisks while they're backing up. Nor will it reduce the strain caused by said backups elsewhere in the system.
So bottom line is you're a knob if you backup while producing if you're actually interested in performance. |
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| Beatflux |
Just a troll trying to look like a legitimate producer...
Everyone is so gullible here. |
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| Mad for Brad |
| it is quite humorous how a slight change of name has you calling me troll. I haven't changed any sort of behaviour and you used to kiss my ass. I suppose anyone that doesn't lick the resident brown shirts gets labelled a troll. Thanks RANN. To the rest, you guys are pathetic. |
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| 19503 |
| why do u back up while producing? doesnt make any sence? |
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| Mad for Brad |
| Did i ever say once I was doing it while producing ? But since you asked, I can easily do it as all my hardrives are compartmentalized. USing a USB connection instead of firewire, I can easily backup one of my non critical disks while doing anything. PEople have discussions about computers and speeds which is also just a hardware question. I don't see how this is not any less relevant. |
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| 19503 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
Did i ever say once I was doing it while producing ? |
but whats the problem then? |
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| kitphillips |
Its all about your join date mate.
If you had been here for ten years then you could rip on whoever you liked. But as it is, I see you've been here a month and are running around being trollish.
For what its worth, usb creates a CPU load, so you'll be losing some cycles because of your backing up anyway. |
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| Mad for Brad |
| I have been here for 10 years. |
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| DJ RANN |
Kit and Beat, I think your trollometers need recalibrating - I don't this is a troll thread....
If his audio interface is a FW unit and the backup is killing all the FW bandwidth, it's a reasonable question to ask if a PCI option would give "extra" fw capabilities, and the answer is yes.
You also wouldn't see a complete shutdown even from the disk transfer rate as mac pro's have at least sata2 drives which are capable of 2g/s, and FW only operates at a max sustained rate of 800 mb/s, meaning the main buss for that transfer is actually only running the about 40% on that drive. Furthermore, the backup could be pulling off any one of the internal drives leaving the other multiple drives doing nothing.
Yes, there would be a bit if system slowdown just due to the process and it's data transfer but there's no reason why you can't use "audio" while that's going on in the background.
Anyway, why the am I telling you this - you both know this :toothless
@M4B - I've used the startech ones with no problems before and they're cheap. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Kit and Beat, I think your trollometers need recalibrating - I don't this is a troll thread....
If his audio interface is a FW unit and the backup is killing all the FW bandwidth, it's a reasonable question to ask if a PCI option would give "extra" fw capabilities, and the answer is yes.
You also wouldn't see a complete shutdown even from the disk transfer rate as mac pro's have at least sata2 drives which are capable of 2g/s, and FW only operates at a max sustained rate of 800 mb/s, meaning the main buss for that transfer is actually only running the about 40% on that drive. Furthermore, the backup could be pulling off any one of the internal drives leaving the other multiple drives doing nothing.
Yes, there would be a bit if system slowdown just due to the process and it's data transfer but there's no reason why you can't use "audio" while that's going on in the background.
Anyway, why the am I telling you this - you both know this :toothless
@M4B - I've used the startech ones with no problems before and they're cheap. |
You're telling us in case anyone else wants to know the answer. But yeah, I personally surf the web and do uni work while producing often, so I'm not one to talk.
I also realise this isn't a troll thread. But he's made fairly silly posts in other equally valid threads, so I'm just pointing out that he shouldn't rip into others and then expect answers.
Now, mad for brad. If you really have been here for ten years, then who were you previously? Because like I said, I see a join date of last month right now. |
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