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How Not To Promote
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yumpop
I am posting this in all sincerity, really, I want TA parties to do well. I also know this thread is either going to get buried after people say, who does that bitch think she is, or people will actually listen because I have been around enough, probably both. The issue- there is too much over promoting for events, seriously, stop it. If you're not a promoter and you're not actually getting PAID to promote a party, chances are you don't know how to do it to begin with. I am tired of at least five invites for the same party, then blasts sent, then news feed, from ten different people.

- when you send an invite for an event and the language isn't cohesive, it sounds like a weak event

- if you send an invite to an event a month ahead and it is not a major headliner, then constantly msg the event list about rsvp, it sounds desperate

- if you're all friends with the same people, inviting them all, and your friends then send the same invites, it creates negative marketing, people will not be interested

I'm not going to dictate how to promote anything but I will tell you this- promoters who have been successful have leads in different core groups, they send a blast or two, not ten, they post their events on different forums, they have bookings that have a following, they pick the right place and the right night for the lineup and crowd.

This isn't one event I'm posting this because of, it is almost every trance related event since we got back from WMC. With the exception of Massive and Made who both have proven promoting success, trance related and TA member originated events are significantly over saturated with marketing. I think it is time to take a step back and reevaluate the way you work an event.
Chaska
I kinda have to agree with this, and this is not only with NYTA-promoted parties. The multiple event listings for different guestlists for the same event is the most annoying.

Get your sh*t together and do just one event listing instead of being annoying. When you oversaturate your mailing list with blasts every day to remind them to RSVP you're just going to scare people away instead of getting them to come to your parties.
yankeeBaby
I dont always agree with yumpop, but in this case, she is DEAD on.


And good timing, too, because I was JUST thinking about this today when I received 5 invites for the same event. :rolleyes:
yumpop
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Originally posted by yankeeBaby
I dont always agree with yumpop, but in this case, she is DEAD on.


Hey!

:haha:

If you always agreed with me, I would have no respect for you.
edubbz
+ ing 1 on this topic.

get yo bitch on!
yumpop
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Originally posted by edubbz

+ ing 1 on this topic.

get yo bitch on!


I'm not bitching on this. I am friends with a lot of the people doing this and it bothers me to see them fail because they did it the wrong way. They need to learn how.
euphoria
I know what your saying... I got at least 6 other invites just yesterday for an event that I also happened to be promoting. I get over 100 invites a day on a slow day, yea its annoying but they are just doing their jobs.

Honestly, it comes with the territory. If you have a lot of people who are promoters in your friends list you are going to get multiple invites. Clicking ignore, or "no" is not really that difficult. If it really bothers you that much take them off your friends list.

People promote because they want the events to succeed. While many promoters may know a decent group of mutual friends they also know others outside of the circle, otherwise they wouldn't have been hired. Anyone know throws events should have enough common sense to make sure the people who promote have a significant # of diverse friends compared to others who are promoting.

I think it's you... its all your fault for being friends with too many promoters ;) But really I am just trying to be devils advocate because there is a number of ways this can be looked at. Who is really to blame? I can't speak for the people who aren't being paid and what their reasoning is behind it but I also agree that sloppy invites just don't cut it. Use spellcheck people!!

It's really not the promoters fault's that too many people have been hired to promote the same event. I mean... how would they know how many other people are promoting in the first place. I don't like it when venues/event organizers do this either because no one really makes any money because there are too many lists to choose from.
Stassi
Some promoters send me text blasts, emails, 5 facebook updates, messages to those invited to the party remind them. It's annoying as hell, and I shouldn't have to click no 5 times, and STILL receive messages about it..
euphoria
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Originally posted by Stassi
Some promoters send me text blasts, emails, 5 facebook updates, messages to those invited to the party remind them. It's annoying as hell, and I shouldn't have to click no 5 times, and STILL receive messages about it..


There should be a way to block all invites or just invites from select people. There are some people that send me invites that arent even in the US so clearly I am likely NEVER going to go to them, but it doesn't stop them from sending so I think that the social network sites need to figure out a way to combat this.
RoBDaWG
Somebody saw my Facebook status and made a thread out of it ;)


But seriously yeah she's right... It's annoying as when people make multiple Facebook events for the SAME PARTY.

Plus it makes the event look like when you get the secondary or tertiary event and there are 12 replies. Invite everyone to ONE EVENT. This way, people see thousands of invites and hundreds of replies, not just the handful of people you invited to your spin off Facebook event.

And yes, the text message spam is so 2003 ;)

Chaska
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Originally posted by Stassi
Some promoters send me text blasts, emails, 5 facebook updates, messages to those invited to the party remind them. It's annoying as hell, and I shouldn't have to click no 5 times, and STILL receive messages about it..


Text blasts are the worst! To add insult to injury, I'm being forced to pay for the text that is just spam. Some phone companies have a feature (I know Sprint does) that allows you to block texts from specific people. I cannot live without it.

Another one of the annoying things: Whenever I get an invite that I have no interest in, I automatically delete it. But THEN, the damn promoter sends it again and again and AGAIN :nervous:
euphoria
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Originally posted by RoBDaWG
Somebody saw my Facebook status and made a thread out of it ;)


But seriously yeah she's right... It's annoying as when people make multiple Facebook events for the SAME PARTY.

Plus it makes the event look like when you get the secondary or tertiary event and there are 12 replies. Invite everyone to ONE EVENT. This way, people see thousands of invites and hundreds of replies, not just the handful of people you invited to your spin off Facebook event.

And yes, the text message spam is so 2003 ;)


Ok, if the promoter were to make one event invite, then where does that put all of the sub-promoters and how will they get credit for the attendees on their guest lists?

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Originally posted by Chaska
Text blasts are the worst!


Oh yea! Especially if you don't have an unlimited text plan. I never post my cell # on social sites. The # on there is my house # and oddly enough I have received text to landline messages on my house # from promoters :wtf:
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