Okay, so I'm a long time behind on this one, but I'm yet to see it posted here. An early Indian LP was recently re-discovered, and it was way, way ahead of it's time. The TB-303 synthesiser was released in 1982. Phuture - Acid Trax, often considered to be the first acid piece, was released around 1986 or 1987.
This was released in 1982.
Apparently, a Bollywood film score composer was simply attempting to create a soundtrack and made these ten tracks by "accident", without the intention to push the boundaries et cetera. The artwork for the release has been scanned and appears to be genuine. Nevertheless, some people are claiming it's an elaborate hoax from Aphex Twin, Ceephax, Luke Vibert or another contemporary acid artist.
What do you guys think? After listening to all of them, I think it's genuine. They do sound unusually accomplished, but there are still signs of someone composing without 30 odd years of electronic music history influencing their methods.
heard this via one of my friends a few months back - i got all excited when i read the description, but then listened to it. total cheese - doesn't matter to me if its real or not.
but based on 1.) the swirly high frequency acid trancey layers and 2.) that the percussion is NOTHING like percussion actual classical indian ragas, I highly doubt the authenticity of this.
Even if this was an indian version of 'switched on bach', there's absolutely no reason that the composer wouldnt try to emulate classcial indian percussion on a drum machine. also, why at this acid techno tempo?
i dont know, i call BS on this - seems like a marketing gimmick to sell a BS, cheesy record at exorbitant cost
Kismet7
I like the hypnotic and trancy vibe of this stuff, i'd actually play that track in the youtube video. Interesting story behind it to say the least. That said, the raagas are not distinct enough to be the equivalents of the actual raagas. One dimensional noodling in comparison.
I wonder if this record rereleased or remarketed in India.
bas
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Originally posted by nefardec
here's more early use of 303 from 1983
heard this via one of my friends a few months back - i got all excited when i read the description, but then listened to it. total cheese - doesn't matter to me if its real or not.
but based on 1.) the swirly high frequency acid trancey layers and 2.) that the percussion is NOTHING like percussion actual classical indian ragas, I highly doubt the authenticity of this.
Even if this was an indian version of 'switched on bach', there's absolutely no reason that the composer wouldnt try to emulate classcial indian percussion on a drum machine. also, why at this acid techno tempo?
i dont know, i call BS on this - seems like a marketing gimmick to sell a BS, cheesy record at exorbitant cost
It's been getting a lot of press lately...that doesn't necessarily help the authenticity factor, just thought you'd like to know :p
Kismet7
Hearing it again, the track in the yotuube video would go down well in even the most educated/intelligent of crowds. It might surprise them or even be seen as a whimsical tease, I imagine a good response to this tease.
Definately would play that track, maybe late into the night.
nefardec
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Originally posted by Kismet7
Actually the track in the yotuube video would go down well in even the most educated/intelligent of crowds. It might surprise them or even be seen as a whimsical tease, and I imagine a good response to this tease.
Definately would play that track, maybe late to the night if I saw some drifters.
nah. try playing that for someone who actually listens to classical indian music. unless they've never heard the sound of 303 before i think they would call it BS. The whole concept is a gimmick, like switched on bach. you said it yourself - it's just whimsical.
This is going to be some of the most torrented stoner music
nefardec
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Originally posted by bas
It's been getting a lot of press lately...that doesn't necessarily help the authenticity factor, just thought you'd like to know :p
yeah, i'm aware of it.
even if it is authentic - too bad the dude didn't make something much cooler.
Kismet7
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Originally posted by nefardec
nah. try playing that for someone who actually listens to classical indian music. unless they've never heard the sound of 303 before i think they would call it BS. The whole concept is a gimmick, like switched on bach. you said it yourself - it's just whimsical.
This is going to be some of the most torrented stoner music
I would not play this for anyone who listens to classical indian music, maybe just to see a reaction or what they think of it. You are buying into the name of the record too much, which was probably named without much thought to it. Obviously a 303 cant emulate what a sitar or violin can. It could have been called 'disco from india.'
And nothing wrong with whimsical, it can work in a club if you want to create a dynamic experience. I would'nt mind having a few whimsical tunes worth playing on hand, of course proper timing would have to be employed.
bas
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Originally posted by nefardec
yeah, i'm aware of it.
even if it is authentic - too bad the dude didn't make something much cooler.
Are you talking about the entire album or just that one single? I've not heard the entire album (just the single), but from listening to that I'm quite impressed with someone being able to come up with something that unique 20+ years ago even if by accident. Take into the account the guy probably had no idea of the full capability of his equipment. Us brown people man, we just skate by on laziness :p
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by nefardec
here's more early use of 303 from 1983
If it's genuine, and the percussion does sound especially suspicious, using the TB-303 on a dance record alone is not revolutionary. There are even other Chicago house records that used the TB-303 before Phuture did, such as Sleazy D - I've Lost Control. The accidental genius was in the tweakin'.
Kismet7
This was a whole album dedicated to the use of the 303 and Roland Jupiter and a 808/909?
Pulling out single tracks is a bit pointless towards to the main point of this whole album concept using a Roland TB-303 to emulate Raagas to Disco Beats in 1982.
nefardec
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Originally posted by bas
Are you talking about the entire album or just that one single? I've not heard the entire album (just the single), but from listening to that I'm quite impressed with someone being able to come up with something that unique 20+ years ago even if by accident. Take into the account the guy probably had no idea of the full capability of his equipment. Us brown people man, we just skate by on laziness :p
The whole album is the same canned beat with different ragas laid on top of it. I've heard all the tracks.
To me this is the equivalent of remaking ragic hindustani vocals with autotune and then 20 years later saying OMG FIRST USE OF AUTOTUNE :: AMAZING
