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So if there's no money why does my label bother paying for stuffffff? (pg. 3)
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
If only there were a website with the resources to make that a reality eh Dave |
Hmmm...what a novel idea. ;) |
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| Rodri Santos |
I'd love to release my own tracks, i can but you need promotion and most dj's won't play an unsigned track.
Sometimes you tracks are very good but need some tweaks to fit the standard that this industry has so you need that feedback too. Add a lead, delete a lead... |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by 19503
oh and btw, producing isnt really work. |
I beg to differ. It might be fun as hell, but it takes effort, expertise, and concentration.
The co-op idea isn't a bad idea, either. |
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| Lolo |
before I hit the couch...
welcome to the 21st century inside the music industry.
I can't complain, I get more off music than most of you guys do. But still, those amounts are a complete joke if you ask me.
Don't blame the labels too quickly. Most of them have side-activities now so they can eat, just like you guys. I read that labels get 80% off your release. Sure they do, who's gonna pay for servers, maintenance, internet costs, management of the data, contracts, deals with all portals. Who's gonna make use of your tracks like 20 times a year, so it potentially multiplies your visibility by 20? Who's gonna send your publishing contracts on time, so you get (if you subscribe to the author rights guild in your country) your author rights paid in FULL?
Do you really think that your records make money for the labels? Come on... The luckiest guys inside the bizz will tell you... Running a label is like racing on sundays on amateur circuits nowadays. Forget the bling bling effects. Do it out of love for the music, get side-activities to cover your costs, and pray.
My new record got released this week, I pushed it really hard with what I had, I'll be happy if it generates 100$ gross income, despite many plays on all radio shows from your dj mag top 10 faves, all playing the cheesy version instead. :-/
If you think that on your own you can make $ with your record, please do, and consider yourself lucky AND full of talent after the first quarter when you make more than 500$ gross sale so they don't put your stuff offline. That's the truth coming up next. And if you're really lucky, let me wish you it goes over and over for the next 20 years. Believe me when I wish you the very best of luck. REALLY.
Things are not as easy as they seem, and this is a crap bizz that demands tremendous effort to get somewhere. Ask my colleagues, they will tell you. Ask yourself the right question... why are you doing this? Money and fame, or high hopes of a better world. Both ways will make you unhappy at different periods, but they will make you as much happy too... |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lolo
..../truth |
* holds hands firmly on ears and shouts, "LALALALALALALALALALALALA" * |
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| Rodri Santos |
i'm not for the money at least, none is for the money but possible fame because you see that 90% of the times you are losing at least time if that's your aim.
I just think labels has too much power and i agree that the labels have costs, but at least they should do the work because sometimes i see they don't promote anything , some producers are even unsure of their release date or finally they don't see a release.
I'd like to run my own label, not for money because i see both labels and producers are alone in this fight but the idea of selecting good music and having your own label considered as a "good label" attracts me. |
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| DjWoody |
I have a good one for you guys. If there's no Money on producing, why is it that a friend of mine makes mashups, sells them on Crooklyn Clan and other websites, and last we spoke he was making about $4000 a month! That's on sales alone!
His name got out there and he's now getting bookings all over. He doesn't make his own tracks, he simply makes mashups. |
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| msz |
| selling mashups. rofl. i want to hurt these people. |
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| DjWoody |
| hahaha same here. I can't stand mashups. Thats why I never did them. He would always tell me to make some but I always refused. |
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| msz |
| good idea, lets bank off the people who dont get any money making the tunes. |
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| Lolo |
| that stuff ain't gonna linger. This is short term, and you know it. There have always been things like that, dummies paying someone a lot of money for crazy "jobs". But that does NOT linger. Believe my experience. |
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| 19503 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
a friend of mine makes mashups, sells them on Crooklyn Clan and other websites, and last we spoke he was making about $4000 a month! That's on sales alone!
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well is he running that Crooklyn website himself? caus i see the tracks there costs 4USD (ing expensive) and in that case he needs 1000 sales a month. should be possible when making cheese crap like that. probably not legal though. or certainly. also he might be exaggerating. seems like the perfect vedding-music-website though rofl. whatta .
edit: damn this is the worst music i have heard all year. |
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