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do you listen to your conscience? (pg. 2)
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Every transgression is progress. |
We must therefore stop progressing. |
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| ModernNosferatu |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
We must therefore stop progressing. |
I'm not talking about transgression in this but....
Was this sarcastic or do you really believe that we should stop progressing?
Progression is what human life on Earth is all about. Progression of your morals, your intelligence, Progression in science and gadgets and programs that make our life easier especially in the music field, progression in friendship and love ones that make it better to really get to know someone over time and also spirituality. Also progression in your job to make more of that all mighty green paper. (USA only on the paper being green) |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
To be fair though, a narcissist probably wouldn't pose the question in the first place. So you might be ok on that front.
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Really?
I'm not so sure. Narcissists love to start discussions about themselves |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by ModernNosferatu
Progression is what human life on Earth is all about. Progression of your morals, your intelligence, Progression in science and gadgets and programs that make our life easier especially in the music field, progression in friendship and love ones that make it better to really get to know someone over time and also spirituality. Also progression in your job to make more of that all mighty green paper. (USA only on the paper being green) |
That's true, but this drive for progress is also the source of all human misery (as well as temporary joy).
Spirituality totally outside the scope of time so progress is irrelevant. The 'feeling of beingness' does not require any sort of superficial human progress. People have felt 'beingness' whether they were cutting things with stones or lasers. That sense of unity/oneness/love, is something else outside the scope of 'progress'. Progress essentially caters to the subjective 'quality of life', a concept completely relative to social mood and values. That is to say, the Sioux would not find the invention of an iPhone tantamount to any notion of 'progress' (if they even had the notion of progress)
Progress is a time-based conception of collective worldly actions. It is given importance when people collectively believe that their waking lives are the ultimate reality, and so they labor endlessly to prevent pain or prolong pleasure. |
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| st3nc |
i would break up an engagement for fun, not even to get laid
marriages end in Divorce is the USA...:thepirate
sadly :(
also i definatly am my own conscience, i do whatever i want, i try to have good intentions, i try not to break societies 'rules', or my places Laws, but in the end i have to survive, have fun, and spill my seed
also whats 1 persons garbage is anothers garbage and anothers treasure, and anothers nothing
so wut
conscience doesnt exist someone quickly define this word (someone not born from England or Australia pllllease)
or canada, your just French, this is dat ISH, that English if you will |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by ModernNosferatu
I'm not talking about transgression in this but....
Was this sarcastic or do you really believe that we should stop progressing? |
It was a deliberate and sarcastic syllogism - i.e. All cats are made from atoms. Atoms are invisible. Therefore all cats are invisible.
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
Really?
I'm not so sure. Narcissists love to start discussions about themselves |
Without saying it's impossible, a pathological narcissist's ability to look inward is almost non-existent. Would a true classic narcissist venture to question himself; the existence or absence of conscience and the ramifications stemming from that in order to get attention? It's unlikely because most attention getting mechanisms used by the narcissist have a component of self-aggrandizement while being utterly lacking in self-awareness.
While the OP admits to being a narcissist, the pathology of his narcissism remains to be determined. The fact that he admits to being a narcissist and then brings up questions relating to his conscience indicates more self-awareness than a pathological narcissist has. I think it's more likely that he has narcissistic traits (common to pretty much everyone (in varying degrees and necessary for functioning in our daily interactions with others) he's becoming aware of than he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ModernNosferatu
I'm not talking about transgression in this but....
Was this sarcastic or do you really believe that we should stop progressing?
Progression is what human life on Earth is all about. Progression of your morals, your intelligence, Progression in science and gadgets and programs that make our life easier especially in the music field, progression in friendship and love ones that make it better to really get to know someone over time and also spirituality. Also progression in your job to make more of that all mighty green paper. (USA only on the paper being green) |
Life is not about progress, it is about effective survival. Progress simply develops an effective survival. You can look at Buddhist Monks, and ask what are they progressing at? None of the things we associate with progression, yet relative to their understanding, they are effectively surviving. And then if you look at different species of animals, what are they progressing at? Progression is not essential towards living, relative to human nature, psyche, biology etc. But of course, relative to modern development of socities, civilization, cultures, progression is essential, to keep up and effectively survive. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Life is not about progress, it is about effective survival. Progress simply develops an effective survival. You can look at Buddhist Monks, and ask what are they progressing at? None of the things we associate with progression, yet relative to their understanding, they are effectively surviving. And then if you look at different species of animals, what are they progressing at? Progression is not essential towards living, relative to human nature, psyche, biology etc. But of course, relative to modern development of socities, civilization, cultures, progression is essential, to keep up and effectively survive. |
It's views like this which go a long way to explaining your reputation, here. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
It's views like this which go a long way to explaining your reputation, here. |
Explain your vagueness. And I dont mind a reputation amongst a few trolls. Naturally, one would develop given some of the stances I take. Now if I was a troll like you, i'm sure i'd be your friend lol, and have "good rep." |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Explain your vagueness. |
You've boiled down the existence of the conscious mind to a matter of survival. I could substitute the word, rats for Buddhist Monks and the meaning of the sentence, with the rhetorical euphemism in place, remains intact. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
We must therefore stop progressing. |
Why?
I sure don't subscribe to an Arbiterian theory of morals, but I don't understand why there must be no more so-called transgressions. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
You've boiled down the existence of the conscious mind to a matter of survival. I could substitute the word, rats for Buddhist Monks and the meaning of the sentence, with the rhetorical euphemism in place, remains intact. |
Typical delusional tool (literally). Survival is enabled by the body as much as the conscious mind. And for those that invest more heavily in the conscious mind toward survival, I stated the Bhuddist Monks as an example. And no I did not relate Bhuddist Monks to Rats, your delusions did that. |
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