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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
its based on phonetics, not letters. |
Both, actually. All the consonants can be spelt. F is spelt 'ef', while 'h' is 'aitch', hence why you'd say 'an HD' (as I just learnt). |
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| Fledz |
| This is why Croatian is awesome because it's all phonetic. Ok so the grammar is also retarded but the spelling makes sense! |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| the spelling of aitch is irrelevant though, its the "aye" sound that matters. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Both, actually. All the consonants can be spelt. F is spelt 'ef', while 'h' is 'aitch', hence why you'd say 'an HD' (as I just learnt). |
He means the grammatical rule is decided by the phoneme, not the letter. There is a seperate alphabet of phonemes: the IPA. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by 19503
be glad u dont have sexes on your words in addition to this crap. |
That doesn't make much difference. I'm a poor Spanish speaker by anyone's standards and I still have no trouble with that. I don't remember having a problem with it when I studied Latin, either.
Does anyone have a link to that article posted in the last six months or so comparing the relative difficulties of languages? It was a really interesting read and I wouldn't mind re-visiting it. To jog memories, it mentioned a language where there's no right or left, people speak only in terms of North, East, South and West. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
That doesn't make much difference. I'm a poor Spanish speaker by anyone's standards and I still have no trouble with that. I don't remember having a problem with it when I studied Latin, either.
Does anyone have a link to that article posted in the last six months or so comparing the relative difficulties of languages? It was a really interesting read and I wouldn't mind re-visiting it. To jog memories, it mentioned a language where there's no right or left, people speak only in terms of North, East, South and West. |
Newsweek appears to have taken it down. Which is a good thing, because it made no sense whatsoever. |
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| Domesticated |
| How so? As a means for comparing the relative difficulties of each language, it was completely useless. As an interesting read about other cultures, it was highly effective. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
How so? As a means for comparing the relative difficulties of each language, it was completely useless. As an interesting read about other cultures, it was highly effective. |
Because it is, primarily, an attempt to compare the difficulties of each language; it claims there's a fierce debate going on about something that is pretty much discredited (the strong versions of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis) and tells you very little about how languages actually differ from one another.
If you want to really learn something about how the different languages of the world behave, and where the oddballs are, check out the World Atlas of Language Structures. It's really fun, based on peer-reviewed articles, fully integrated with Google Maps and with very detailed chapters on every phenomenon you can think of. |
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| Jarvmeister |
| quote: | | I'm going to check in to an hotel this evening. |
Correct, but sounds phonetically incorrect, which sort of disproves someones statement that it's about phonetics and not grammar. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Because it is, primarily, an attempt to compare the difficulties of each language; it claims there's a fierce debate going on about something that is pretty much discredited (the strong versions of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis) and tells you very little about how languages actually differ from one another.
If you want to really learn something about how the different languages of the world behave, and where the oddballs are, check out the World Atlas of Language Structures. It's really fun, based on peer-reviewed articles, fully integrated with Google Maps and with very detailed chapters on every phenomenon you can think of. |
Cheers.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
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Correct, but sounds phonetically incorrect, which sort of disproves someones statement that it's about phonetics and not grammar. |
No, it's 'a hotel'. Using 'an' is incorrect. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
If you want to really learn something about how the different languages of the world behave, and where the oddballs are, check out the World Atlas of Language Structures. It's really fun, based on peer-reviewed articles, fully integrated with Google Maps and with very detailed chapters on every phenomenon you can think of. |
Bad Lira! Stay out of my life. :p |
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