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Virus TI used as a VST hardware accelerated effect? In Sonar 8.5 and Kore 2??
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Anzeigen
Hallo All!

I am using Sonar Pro 8.5, I have recently made some breakthroughs learning how to make the best of VC integration in Sonar. BUT I am still numbed by all the staggering possibilities of both, and I do not understand a lot of it, Admittedly I am slow learner with all this tech.

Hoping one or more of you can help, I would Very much Love to use my TI Snow's effects through USB, as if I were using any other hardware accelerated VST effect, I see a lot of discussion on the net about it that boggles and delights me, and any help would be much appreciated. I also have Kore 2 and would like to use this feature there aswell, I know next to nothing about Sonar's Side-chaining. I have seen it done in Cubase, but don't own it.

Thanks!

Chris & Erik
cryophonik
The TI's effect inputs only work in real-time via the analog ins/outs, not as an effect plugin nor by USB - BTW, this is a design limitation by Access, not a Sonar limitation. So, in order to use the TI as an effects unit, you have to route the audio that you want to add effects to out of your DAW, into your soundcard, out of your soundcard into your TI's inputs, then out of the analog outputs and back into your DAW - yes it's a bit of a PITA. The TI's audio effects are really designed for real-time/live use.

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Originally posted by Anzeigen
I also have Kore 2 and would like to use this feature there aswell, I know next to nothing about Sonar's Side-chaining. I have seen it done in Cubase, but don't own it.


I don't understand what you're asking here and I think maybe you're confused about what sidechaining is - neither Kore 2 nor the Virus TI rely on sidechaining to work in Sonar (nor Cubase) if that's what you're asking. Maybe you could clarify what exactly you want to know.
Timothy
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Originally posted by cryophonik
The TI's effect inputs only work in real-time via the analog ins/outs, not as an effect plugin nor by USB - BTW, this is a design limitation by Access, not a Sonar limitation. So, in order to use the TI as an effects unit, you have to route the audio that you want to add effects to out of your DAW, into your soundcard, out of your soundcard into your TI's inputs, then out of the analog outputs and back into your DAW - yes it's a bit of a PITA. The TI's audio effects are really designed for real-time/live use.



I don't understand what you're asking here and I think maybe you're confused about what sidechaining is - neither Kore 2 nor the Virus TI rely on sidechaining to work in Sonar (nor Cubase) if that's what you're asking. Maybe you could clarify what exactly you want to know.


He can do it over USB too if he doesn't have an audio interface.

You have to enable audio in over USB first ofcourse.
Mad for Brad
I think Cryo just said you can't. Which is why he said it is a pain in the ass as now you have to double up on your latency.
Timothy
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Originally posted by Mad for Brad
I think Cryo just said you can't. Which is why he said it is a pain in the ass as now you have to double up on your latency.


Then I have a magical Virus Ti, because the one I have can do it over USB.

Unless they removed it since I'm still on an older OS.
Mad for Brad
so you are sending the audio to the Virus, and it is coming back purely via the USB ?
Timothy
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Originally posted by Mad for Brad
so you are sending the audio to the Virus, and it is coming back purely via the USB ?


yes, both over USB. You can route it from your DAW into the Virus over USB and it goes back over USB into your DAW.
Mad for Brad
maybe you have TI 2? anyways you and Cryo settle it.
cryophonik
Yeah, actually Timothy is correct that you could send the audio into the TI using USB if you're using the TI as a soundcard. My original point was referring more to using the TI as an effect in a more conventional manner (i.e., per-track or per-buss basis).
Mad for Brad
you can use the TI as a sound card? That sounds like a recipe for disaster.

cryophonik
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Originally posted by Mad for Brad
you can use the TI as a sound card? That sounds like a recipe for disaster.


Yeah, I've only experimented with it a few times and had terrible latency, clicks/pops, etc., It seems like most people have had similar issues (not to mention stability problems), but others say it's fine.
Sean Walsh
I'm personally running the TI as my soundcard and haven't had any problems with it.

edit: One exception to that, if I leave Ableton idle for an extended period of time with a TI track in it (it. over night), when I come back to it there will be massive latency and it will basically be unusable. Restarting ableton fixes the problem. No idea if this is a "normal" TI problem or something specific to using it as a sound card.
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