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Help! Remixing an existing track to make a dance version...
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| artmancheno |
I have an artist that wants me to remix one of their existing songs. They mentioned they just secured some Euro licensing deals and have some pretty big deals in the U.S. already (they are based in Canada). They are going to give me the stems of the songs for me to work with on a dance version of the song. The artist mentioned they would give me producer points. I recently joined ASCAP (today).
My question now is how to remix percentage shares work? What % is the norm to ask for the remix version of a song? Anything basic that I might be overlooking that I should know?
I am new to this all and am happy anyone cares at all to want to use me to be honest but don't want to settle for anything less than what would be considered to be fair.
Thanks in advance! |
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| artmancheno |
I did not imagine it would that that high.
So I would ask to be co-producer when submitting the remix of the song to a place like ASCAP? I am new to the business end of all of this. |
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| EddieZilker |
What System-J said. It used to be about $5,000.00 US. The market is so flooded producers that all your guy has to do, if he has a decent following, is put it up for a remix contest. Of course he'll have to sift through a ton of crap mixes to find the top ten.
If the guy just found you and sent you a personal letter or e-mail, I'm a little surprised that compensation wasn't discussed, up front. If you're not already an established music professional and you don't have a lot of tracks that are signed on labels, I'd be very leery about asking for any compensation. |
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| Mad for Brad |
this is more the old school system or "real music industry" that doesn't involve beatport when you are talking about points. When people say 50%, they are talking about beatport sales which isn't really the "music industry"
Producers points generally refer to a portion of the publishing (basically performance royalties as these are the only royalties ascap collects) royalties as generally, only the songwriter gets those, not the producer ,remixer. This is why you traditionally just paid a remixer a flat fee. The beatport industry has changed this process as nobody there is making money so they offer 50% of 50% which amounts to squat. AS far as mechanical royalty's , the producer's was traditionally 27 cents for a 12 retail cd I can't imagine what it is for an itune download. It is probably negligent so your money will be coming from public performance and licensing.
So if they they are getting lots of airtime , it could work out great for you. If not , 1 time fee is the way to go. Find out what the rest of their music is doing. Where is it being played. Any TV movie , liscensing � and you will have an idea what sort of money is being made. Then you can determine your price based on what they can afford.
If this is a big deal, get a lawyer. It sounds like you've found something legit that could pay dividends and you should get some advice from a music lawyer, |
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| Mad for Brad |
| quote: | Originally posted by artmancheno
I did not imagine it would that that high.
So I would ask to be co-producer when submitting the remix of the song to a place like ASCAP? I am new to the business end of all of this. |
also note that ASCAP does not care about producers or co producers so you won't be receiving a dime from them. They only collect performance royalties for songwriters. This point deal is something you would work out with the publisher assuming they have one. |
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| artmancheno |
| Thank you for sharing the incredible insight you have on this. Much appreciated. |
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| Mad for Brad |
http://www.amazon.ca/Confessions-Re...80361090&sr=8-1
Kinda of a music business primer. It is a good read about how things actually work. A little dated but still relevant to some degree. It is also a great read. A few technical parts but on the whole , just an intro to the business side by someone that has been in the business and not someone that has a degree in law but has never practiced in the business.
I have a few books on the business side but they are all quite depressing to read. |
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| artmancheno |
| LOL, thanks again |
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