Originally posted by igottaknow
can't be language because most animals have their own language they use to communicate with. birds for example
Ours is a bit more complicated than theirs, though, semantically and syntactically speaking, so it's fair to say that though the advent of language was imminent in biological history, there was still some work left to do.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
How is that of any value, though? We hold our transmissions to be quite important and indeed many things that are inexorably cultural amongst human beings are that way because we have a seemingly natural imperative to communicate with one another... but to place value in something because it may very well leave a lasting impact on the research of future, sentient organisms? Something we may very well never know first-hand? Why is that more valuable than something like, say, antiseptics?
On the scale of the universe, leaving behind any monument to our intelligence and the arbitrary behavioural patterns we call culture is an achievement. For a collection of transient creatures swarming and multiplying in a drop of water, leaving some unique physical mark on the universe is an impressive achievement. It's a small form of immortality.
Meat187
Eurodance.
Edit: I don't know why, but I can never seriously get involved in a forum discussion like this. It just seems pointless. It always ends in walls of text by certain people (you know who you are) debating over the definition of achievement, whether it is scientific or cultural or evolutional, what an appropriate measurement scale could be and what the definition of definition is. I can do that over a couple of beers and will reveal wisdom of colossal depth but I just can't be bothered to write long paragraphs full of pretentious words that are just as subjective and of no more value as simply answering Eurodance. When you think about it for a long time you will realize that Eurodance is indeed the best answer to the question, better than anything about science, language, evolution, the wheel, fire, the genetic processes or religion (if you're an idiot) you can ever say. Why? Because you spend a long time thinking about it.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Meat187
Eurodance.
dub tech glitch hop
Esiotrat
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Originally posted by igottaknow
can't be language because most animals have their own language they use to communicate with. birds for example
Grunts and sounds of alarm aren't really a 'language' compared to the languages of today (which is what I was obviously referring to)
The way we communicate and being able to describe something that happend in the past or a plan for the future sets people apart from animals.
Meat187
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Originally posted by Enigmatik
Grunts and sounds of alarm aren't really a 'language'
Of course they are! It's called Finnish.
Sushipunk
Anyone mention beer yet?
srussell0018
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Originally posted by Enigmatik
Spelling the word "achievement" right.
Esiotrat
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Spelling the word "achievement" right.
Thanks. It was a typo in the title. I did spell it right in my post.
Halcyon+On+On
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
Anyone mention beer yet?
Alcohol really is a nice little discovery. It's probably the most prevalent aphrodisiac there is. Not only does it act as an antiseptic of sorts, but it makes people look much better, albeit temporarily.
Coffee is another discovery that has probably built empires. Truly, a cheap liquid that people love to drink, distilled from beans that are extremely easy to grow. Various levels of gourmet profitability aside, what else could possibly get the entire anthill up and moving at the crack of dawn? Hope and optimism? Haaaa.
srussell0018
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Originally posted by Enigmatik
Thanks. It was a typo in the title. I did spell it right in my post.
