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Mcguinty wants to open a provincial online casino! :S
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| Jayx1 |
This is coming from the same Mcguinty who is passing a law for every little tidbit in our society "in the name of our well being and safety"???
So while a 20 year old cant drink half a beer and drive, you cant own a pitbull, spray your lawn for weeds, have a cigarette in your own car while working, you can't go to a legal MMA match, and it's getting harder and harder to enjoy a night on the town thanks to numerous AGCO raids, Mcguinty somehow thinks this is ok??? He is going to make every home, blackberry and iphone into a casino???
Now just to make it clear, i support this idea. But the fact that its coming from mcguinty makes it extremely hypocritical considering his nanny state record.
I think if anything, this move justifies my position that all the above laws, and their fines, are nothing more than cash makers for the government and has little to do with safety. Im sure if talking on your cell phone while driving could make the government $100 million they would fully sanction it!
Unbelievable
| quote: | Online craps coming
Province wants part of $400 million pot wagered on Internet gaming
Ontario’s hoping to hit the jackpot with online gambling.
After years of dwindling attendance at its traditional casinos, the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation (OLG) is moving into Internet gambling to recoup some of the $400 million provincial residents spend annually on offshore gaming sites.
Ontario Finance Minister Dwight Duncan said the province will offer a safer and more regulated on-line gambling option which includes age and identity verification software.
“People want this. People enjoy gaming,” Duncan said Tuesday. “I ran Canada’s largest alcohol and drug recovery program for many years and the one thing we always said was that prohibition doesn’t work.”
OLG chairman Paul Godfrey said the organization will review best practices around the world and consult with problem gambling experts before launching the site in early 2012.
“E-commerce is now part of our everyday lives, from online banking to e-media,” Godfrey said. “OLG needs to be current and to evolve with the changing needs of our customers … It is an inevitable step in the ongoing transformation of the OLG.”
The OLG says it will “likely” include a full range of casino-style games and online lottery ticket sales at the start.
Like more traditional venues, players will have to be at least 18 years to buy lottery tickets and a minimum of 19 to play the games.
Duncan said the government is not considering raising the gambling age.
NDP Leader Andrea Horwath said Internet gambling is a game Ontario can’t afford to play.
As the mother of a 17-year-old, she’s concerned about teenagers graduating from video games to online gambling.
”That is a concern I think that many parents would have,” she said. “The reality is the people who will be engaged in Internet gambling are people who are already addicted to gambling as well as young people … why make it worse with Internet gambling?”
Unlike most offshore sites, the OLG will likely require gamblers to set their time and financial limits before each session, and allow them to voluntarily exclude themselves from play for a set period of time.
Pop-ups that warn gamblers they’re playing dangerously are also possible.
Jon Kelly, CEO of the Responsible Gambling Council of Canada, said those types of measures can provide Ontarians with a safer Internet option than offshore sites.
The technology can be used to provide more meaningful brakes on problem gambling than might be found in a casino, he said.
June Cotte, associate professor of marketing at the University of Western Ontario’s Richard Ivey School of Business, studied online versus casino gambling in Las Vegas.
Those gamblers who switched to the Internet were far more likely to play daily and in front of their children.
However, she said the proliferation of gambling sites worldwide is already a reality, and a government-sanctioned site that’s strictly regulated could provide safeguards that are not available elsewhere.
PC MPP Norm Miller said online gaming is an unfortunate reality, so Ontario would need to consider it or risk losing ground to competing jurisdictions.
However, he does not believe the Dalton McGuinty government can successfully implement and oversee the program because it has struggled to bring in eHealth records and eco fees.
“They try to solve their budgetary problems by leaving no stone unturned that they might find a dollar behind, so this is just one other place they’re looking for money,” he said.
Online is still a small portion of the total gambling pot but it is growing exponentially.
Without the move to Internet betting, the OLG cannot compete effectively, Duncan said.
It’s estimated the growth in online gambling is 15% annually with about $1 billion wagered each year from Canada alone and about $30 billion a year around the world.
Numerous jurisdictions, including the Atlantic provinces and B.C., ventured into the online world, although B.C. just put its site on hold over privacy breaches that exposed some gamblers’ personal information and allowed some people to bet with others’ money.
Godfrey, who was brought in to clean up the OLG after insider wins and other scandals, said the organization is giving itself 18 months before implementation to make sure it gets it right.
The OLG is seeking a private partner to run the actual site but will retain responsibility for overall management. |
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| VDub |
Because this makes money...
None of the other things make money for him...
What's good for the goose, Dalton!!!! |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| screw the online casino idea....we need to make Niagara Falls the Las Vegas of the north. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
screw the online casino idea....we need to make Niagara Falls the Las Vegas of the north. |
exactly! ive been saying this for years |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
exactly! ive been saying this for years |
Its an ideal area for it. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Its an ideal area for it. |
Never thought of it but it would be BADASS.
I mean the one or two Casino's they have up there doesn't cut it, they should just keep going...and build a LOT more down there.
But then you'd get people complaining and the Gov would get scared like they always do and NOTHING would get done. Damned Ontario. How come things like this weren't a problem in the 70s/80s w the CN Tower being built and the Skydome etc? |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
Never thought of it but it would be BADASS.
I mean the one or two Casino's they have up there doesn't cut it, they should just keep going...and build a LOT more down there.
But then you'd get people complaining and the Gov would get scared like they always do and NOTHING would get done. Damned Ontario. How come things like this weren't a problem in the 70s/80s w the CN Tower being built and the Skydome etc? |
people bitched but no one listened. Also we had leaders with at least some vision.
Bitching culture in toronto started in the 70s with jane jacobs and we have never looked back since. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
people bitched but no one listened. Also we had leaders with at least some vision.
Bitching culture in toronto started in the 70s with jane jacobs and we have never looked back since. |
Wait, there was still so much growth etc etc etc in the 70s, 80s...I'd say mid to late 90s was when things got messed up no? |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
Wait, there was still so much growth etc etc etc in the 70s, 80s...I'd say mid to late 90s was when things got messed up no? |
nothing happened since the 70s. We got a few more tall buildings. No new subways or highways or trains. The skydome is about it really. And the sheppard stub doesnt count for anything tbh
if anything the city is now in regress instead of progress when it comes to putting in bike lanes and wanting to turn the gardiner into a "tree lined boulevard" |
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| I_Am_Vince |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
screw the online casino idea....we need to make Niagara Falls the Las Vegas of the north. |
That would be awesome but Ontario is losing money on it's Casinos so building more in Niagara wouldn't help it. There's also Seneca Casino across the falls on the U.S. side. perhaps Ontario can spend more money on building more tourist attractions or something make money.
I agree with Jay on the Ontario Online Casino because it'll bring in $100 million a year for the government. But this proposal is coming from the guy who's banning everything to benefit the family. |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by I_Am_Vince
That would be awesome but Ontario is losing money on it's Casinos so building more in Niagara wouldn't help it. |
i think the reason why the province is losing money on casinos is because they are so far away from each other. its like one casino for every few hundred square km which really only supports its local residents. if niagara had a large selection of casinos (with other attractions such as shows) it would draw in many more tourists.
nothing major has changed about niagara since i was a kid. it is pretty much the same now as back then. people have no reason for a return visit.
edit: we also need to change the way our casinos are run. ontario casinos do not treat high rollers/whales the way they should be treated. vegas casinos are privately owned so they compete against each other to bring the whales to their establishment. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by I_Am_Vince
That would be awesome but Ontario is losing money on it's Casinos so building more in Niagara wouldn't help it. There's also Seneca Casino across the falls on the U.S. side. perhaps Ontario can spend more money on building more tourist attractions or something make money.
I agree with Jay on the Ontario Online Casino because it'll bring in $100 million a year for the government. But this proposal is coming from the guy who's banning everything to benefit the family. |
The casinos at race tracks are not eve real casinos....just granny slot machine places.
The other casinos are either paying indian tribes or charities such huge amounts of money.
Let private enterprise run casinos in niagara falls and they will make a ton of money. There is already a big tourist attraction there but how many people from outside Ontario will make several trips to The Falls. Casinos will help the other attractions (such as the wine country and golf courses) in the area. I would love to walk down by the falls and be able to jump from casino to casino for the night. |
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