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| jester |
| quote: | Although a Montreal nightclub is distancing itself from an invitation on its Facebook page that specified "NO FAT GIRLS ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!;)", people familiar with the local party scene say clubs regularly - if not overtly - discriminate based on looks.
"Everybody knows. (Clubs) are selective," said Stefano Apostolakos, owner of Montreal promotions company SMAN Productions.
A nightclub that wants to attract a certain kind of crowd will never openly turn people away based on weight, he said, but if a person doesn't fit in with the club's look, a bouncer can still find some excuse to turn them away, whether it's a long wait time, an expensive bottle service fee, or claiming the club is at capacity.
"(Discrimination) comes with the right to refuse entrance," Apostolakos said.
However, nightclubs can openly turn people away based on age or dress by setting age minimums or dress codes, Apostolakos explained.
The invitation was posted last week on the Facebook page of Muzique, a posh nightclub on St. Laurent Blvd., and included the line "no fat girls allowed," followed by the emoticon of a winking smiley face. The party was to celebrate the birthday of one of the club's partners last Saturday. The invitation was taken down on the weekend.
"When I saw it I freaked out. I was livid," said one plus-size woman who received the message as a member of Facebook's Musique group. Speaking on condition that her name not be used, she said her weight has never stopped her from going out - but that she won't be visiting Muzique if they discriminate against people who are overweight.
The management at Muzique said the comment was an accident and that they are thinking of posting an apology.
"We didn't even realize (the comment) was there until a couple of days ago and it was too late to retract it because the event had already happened," said John Jay, who oversees communication and marketing for Muzique.
Jay says it was the party planners that posted the event invitation, not himself or the owners. He said a friend of the club's partner thought it would be funny to add the line to the event invitation as "an inside joke."
"It was taken down as soon as we found out about it," Jay said. "It was not an intentional thing. It was actually an accident. It was someone thinking he was funny," Jay said. "We don't think it's funny at all."
After the invitation went up, a handful of Facebook users expressed their disapproval. One user copied and emailed the event listing and the comments to The Gazette before they were taken off the Internet.
"I found it immature and ridiculous," Joanelle Dufresne told The Gazette in an email. She posted a reaction to the invitation on Saturday.
Another user wrote: "Is there going to be a weight scale at the entrance? What's the maximum weight to get in? Frankly, I thought I had seen everything until now."
Shant Kojakian, who owns the Montreal promotions company Look Kool, said weight is not much of an issue at night clubs. Race tends to be more of a factor when it comes to selecting people at the entrace, he said. Kojakian said he's never seen a bouncer tell a potential customer he or she was too fat to get in.
Of course, night clubs want to attract a certain kind of clientele who are well-dressed and will spend money inside, Apostolakos and Kojakian said.
"They'll never tell you you can't come in because of your looks," Apostolakos said, "but at the end of the day that what it comes down to, usually. ... It's the sad truth." |
(Courtesy of The Montreal Gazette) |
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| corjay9 |
| I know for a fact that Buonna Note didn't allow one of my friends inside cuz she was too fat. They were a big group of girls, and the bouncer told the girl at the front of the line that her friend was too fat and they wouldn't let her in, so they all left and went somewhere else, in disgust. They didn't make a scene because they didn't want the big girl to find out. |
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| Kendo |
Sona was notorious for this type of thing... more so than any club I know. That whole semi-circle line and letting in people that they wanted...
Another typical bouncer response to those not getting in:
"You need tickets for this event."
or
"This is a private party."
lol |
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| zeKsg |
| In Moscow if you are fat don't even bother going to any prestigious club, also if you are not all decked out in expensive clothes... |
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| Swamper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kendo
Sona was notorious for this type of thing... more so than any club I know. |
Yup. Sona was my first Montreal afterhours experience...also the first time seeing Max Graham. Needless to say, I still remember that night like it was yesterday. haha
Good thing I was with a girl or I had no chance of getting in. |
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| Spin Laden |
| just think of how empty some of those R&B clubs would be with this policy. |
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
Good thing I was with a girl or I had no chance of getting in. |
not even a fat chance? :p |
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| Piano4444 |
No hate on circus but when it first opened I think in 2005 or 2004 I went for the first time and it was the semi circle- picking and choosing type line. The guys did not get in without girls nor did the groups of bigger chicks.
But in the years to come after it was a normal line |
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| Marcus007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spin Laden
not even a fat chance? :p |
ZINGGGGGGGGGGGGG |
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| Spin Laden |
hey Marcus, I actually went to this place last Sat, didn't realize that it was the same place as the article as I didn't read it :p but yeah, NFC for sure, and I'm not talking about a football conference.
It was like Beach Club quality with clothes on :gsmile: |
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| Marcus007 |
my buddy dag runs it
its quite popular im actually surprised becuz the place before that, krush, was always kinda dead
love the terrace upstairs |
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