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Nicolas Jaar - 6 Edits [Wolf+Lamb] free EP! (pg. 2)
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| Seppuku |
| yeah...I really just cannot get into Nicolas Jaar at all. |
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| epicaricacy |
| i think jaar is pretty good actually. It took me awhile to get into him, but once in awhile he makes an epic track. I think the first time i got into it was listening to a clovis set, i can't for the life of remember the id, but it was like an epic closer. |
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| Seppuku |
| the only thing I can think of that I really enjoyed was his remix of No Regular Play - Owe Me. the rest is just meh at best imo. |
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| epicaricacy |
| to be honest, i think that 98% of dance music is by itself...it is up to us to make it sound less ty:p |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by epicaricacy
to be honest, i think that 98% of dance music is by itself...it is up to us to make it sound less ty:p |
This. But yes, there is some that gets old quick.
Jaar hasn't made anything particularly good lately imo, I thought his circus company ep was a big let down. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by epicaricacy
to be honest, i think that 98% of dance music is by itself...it is up to us to make it sound less ty:p |
I prefer to play the 2% that is good music. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I prefer to play the 2% that is good music. |
You mean YOUR 2% that you think is good. Because I think if I listened to some stuff you have I might think it was absolute and vice versa. |
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| epicaricacy |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I prefer to play the 2% that is good music. |
i like playing the good music that stands alone too...but what is the point of spending all that time practicing if all you are going to do is slamfade:p |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
You mean YOUR 2% that you think is good. Because I think if I listened to some stuff you have I might think it was absolute and vice versa. |
Obviously what I think is good. It isn't really about the specifics of the 2%, it's about the attitude. If a record doesn't great on its own it isn't living up to the standards of all other music. It's going in this box entitled "dance product" or "DJ tool" or whatever where you settle for less. When people think like that, dance music becomes un-musical. Why battle to make sound acceptable when you can buy brilliance and make it sound even better?
| quote: | Originally posted by epicaricacy
i like playing the good music that stands alone too...but what is the point of spending all that time practicing if all you are going to do is slamfade:p |
1. Just because great music stands alone doesn't mean it can't be improved by good DJing.
2. A good transition isn't always a hard transition.
3. I'm not at the club to hear your skills, I'm there to enjoy great music. |
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| epicaricacy |
there is more to being a dj than just playing big tunes one after the other.
you need the filler, you need the tools, you need a bit of skill, or else you are nothing but a glorified jukebox imo...not only that, but the challenge to take a piece of pre existing music and mix it in a way that "sort of" makes it your own in a way is something that keeps you on your feet and pushes you to push yourself.
i'm not advocating going hawtin and just throwing 12 tracks one on top of the other, but to say that using beat tools can make the music less brilliant is a bit of a stretch...if anything it should be about trying to bring something original to the table in a way that you would consider as being a "signature style."
the dynamics of music meant for listening, and music meant for consumption on a dance floor are totally different imo. Sometimes when music is too complex, you will clear a floor pretty damn quickly. Sometimes all you need is a catchy perc arrangement to keep people moving.
i have a whole cd folder consisting of tracks that i would never really play on their own... usually labeled under vocal, highs, lows. You can take a slow track that would not get a reaction usually in a certain context, do something as simple as adding a 32 bar loop of nothing but some nice rhythmic highs...and pow! a home listening song can become much more dance friendly.
in a world that there are more djs now than people that are not, i find it quite necessary to bring something unique to the table...especially since we are all essentially picking through the same tracks.
even for the big time amazing tracks, a simple edit can make it more epic. Take something recognizable (usually a hook), and tweak it just enough so that people will be like "omg i love this song, but wait it isn't the same.".
herik schwarz has made a career out of it:p |
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Obviously what I think is good. It isn't really about the specifics of the 2%, it's about the attitude. If a record doesn't great on its own it isn't living up to the standards of all other music. It's going in this box entitled "dance product" or "DJ tool" or whatever where you settle for less. When people think like that, dance music becomes un-musical. Why battle to make sound acceptable when you can buy brilliance and make it sound even better? |
Not necessarily, I'm with you generally in that I like to play tunes that speak for themselves, however there are creative applications for these kind of records and need to be used in the right context.
They can add new elements to any track regardless of the quality, and I think as long as they work together, they're great for giving tunes an original spin within a set without the need to fully remix or edit a track.
You could use any record in this sense I guess but I wouldn't compare a DJ tool/accapella to the standards of other music as that's not their purpose. It all comes down to being creative.
Also this release is rubbish. |
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| epicaricacy |
that's it...next mix i put out, i'm going to find a way to play tracking treasure down and make it not sound like to prove a point:p
i'm not actually paying for that , so one of you trance crackers can send it to me:p |
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